Regardless of whether or not your editor is "doing her work," thats not excuse for you to not do yours. Try to set a good example by providing well-written, well-documented work. Improvement at an individual level spurns improvement at a group level. Who knows, maybe someone will notice and you'll get to be editor. There's no excuse to write something thats going to be on print and have it be of poor quality. If you want your work to be printed, be proud of it and submit something of the highest quality in the time allowed.

Hopefully as you grow up, you'll ditch that "do it only as good as everyone else" mentality.

Did you not read my post THOR? (I hate when people do this!)
I said I AM WRITING at a high quality than my peers! They apparently think good grammar and spelling are only applicable in Language Arts! I never work "as good as everyone else", I try to work better! I wrote that rough draft in about 20 minutes and it's already better than anything I've seen come out of that newspaper. I appreciate your literary criticism, but this is my style of writing, and if you don't like it, that's your opinion. That's the attitude I take when I don't see anything blatantly wrong with something I've written. You may think I'm just some stupid hot-headed teenager who's overprotective of his possessions, but this is the way I work.
You also gotta take into consideration that I'm writing this paper for teens. I'm not going to document every last detail about Cortex Command's collision system or how to mod the game files. I write more of an "ad" for programs then a research paper. Most non-technical students (my target audience) don't care about the finer details of physics simulation in recent games and how it is achieved. All they care about is, "Ok, why the heck would I want to play this game? Blood, guts, guns, rockets, brains? AWESOME!" I don't mean to stereotype, but that is the truth. Look at http://www.datarealms.com What is the FIRST thing you see there? A couple animated GIFs of actors being blown up. That's the first thing that enticed me to check this game out, and that's exactly what I want to project to my fellow teenagers: "Like blood, guts and realistic weapons? Play Cortex Command." That's the message in a nutshell.

I have decided not to put this in the paper... it's not that I'm giving up on it and don't want to improve it, it's just I don't think it's school appropriate. Even though I don't support Jack Thompson's idea that games are "mass murder simulators", a lot of the people at schools probably do and I'm not going to take heat for promoting one of those types of games.

You may be working better, but you still should strive for perfection.

So... when are you going to write about some Orisinal games? Because it seems that you're afraid of being different, or being thought of as a gun totting nut.

Why not write and say something like, "While the main objective of the game is destroying your opponent, one of the biggest and most customizable parts of the game are being able to develop and implement your own creations. The ability to tinker is blah blah blah..." then expand on the learning curve and other parts of modding.

CherryT has failed us...

For him to fail would require this forum to have standards on the subject.

I propose a new rule: Everyone must recommend the game to atleast 145 people!

I've spread it throughout a school of almost 500, with some seepage into the Senior part of my high school. Let's see...that's around... 600 people.

Give or take.

Do I get a prize?

- The-Masses

Heh, I'm guessing most of you are alone playing cc....not me. Muahahaha!

Not I, good sir.

Not I.

I was just doing some work on a short story I'm writing.

- The-Masses

Oh yeah? OH YEAH!?

Well then it would be a certain person on the forum then wouldn't it...

I often have trouble understanding your semi-legible rants, doesn't everyone? but I think you mean that somebody would be playing Cortex Command and is simultaneously logged onto the forum.

Rebuttal: There would be someone playing Cortex Command, yes.

- The-Masses

WHAT!?

You continue to confuse me.

What I MEANT was that you said you have someone you could play cortex command with whenever you want so they obviously have an account on this forum.

(Masses, did you notice tht we are having two conversations at once...? This one and the one in off topic)

You continue to confuse me, but I now see what you meant. Yeah, there's always someone to play with, at my school.

I have perfected the art of disembowelment.

Buuuuuut, nobody's got an account yet. I'm urging my friends to do it, so they can get scenes and mods and such, but they aren't biting.

And, yes, I do realize that we are having two conversations. That is the beauty of a forum.

- The-Masses

Thank you, DJFrank, I guess he missed the point of what I said.

Regardless, if thats your "literary style," I hope you don't plan on becoming a writer professionally. To educated, experienced editors, thats not creative license: Its inexperience, sloppiness, and just plain lazy.

Seriously, take more pride in your work and maybe you'll be less unhappy with your working environment.

There's a huge difference from being "different" than from being "out of line". Yeah.
I'm promoting a game that involves shooting people and crushing people. Violence, my friend. And look, it's not that this goes against my own personal beliefs. I don't believe video games cause violent behavior in children, or anyone, like that dumb@ss Jack Thompson does. I'm going to press J to fire my gun right? And I'll only be aiming in two dimensions. Damn, Cortex Command is SOOOO REALISTIC, right?
But the vast majority of stupid "sheep" people will follow anything the media wants them to believe. "Video Games = My Child causing the Next Columbine? Why the heck are you promoting violence in a school newspaper?" Who are they going to point at? Me. And that's not something I want to be responsible for.
By all means, I want to be different. I don't think the newspaper here has had a tech columnist before and they have welcomed me with open arms. The last thing I want to do is get them shut down because a bunch of stupid parents think they're promoting violence.

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Man ProjektTHOR, you must have nothing better to do but lurk on Internet forums and critique people. No, I don't plan on becoming a writer. Yes, I strive for perfection. Yes, the thing I posted was a ROUGH DRAFT written in a half an hour.

And there is a little thing called "point of diminishing return" that you should educate yourself on. This piece is NOT going to be published, so why do you keep arguing and insulting me about a ROUGH DRAFT THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE PUBLISHED?

"This is just one of those life lessons you have to learn."

Shut up. I know you're thinking that after reading this post and I think you should keep your damn comments to yourself. I don't want to see another post from you or anyone in this topic.
I want it closed now.

I was trying to get this game some attention and I had good intentions. But instead I get a face full of "Your literary style is crap. Improve. No, I'm not going to shut up, I'm just going to insult you." I asked for constructive criticism. Not:

You jerk. I poured time into this out of the goodness of my heart and this is what I get? A faceful of "You lazy ass." Maybe I'll think twice about promoting this game and it's forums next time someone asks me to recommend a PC game for them.

I'm NOT in the mood. I just had an essay test where the maximum amount of points I can get out of 100 is 85. I feel like crap and I don't need any more of it.

In short
1. You're arguing over nothing.
2. You don't know how to get people to do what you want. Instead, you just insult them and hope it gets them to change.
3. This topic needs to be closed, as the original topic name is no longer relevant because I am no longer posting it.

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Yep. Sorry.

You need to chill out. I don't know what your malfunction is, but no one here is being nearly as uncivil and disrespectful as you're being. You posted something for us to read, and some of us felt that this was an invitation to provide positive, constructive commentary. Thats what we do in this forum. If you didn't want that, you should have politely asked, prior to the start of any commentary, that no such discussion take place. Alternatively, you could have opted not to post the full body of your text and just say something to the effect of: "Hey guys, how cool is it that I get a chance to talk about something I enjoy in a school paper." That would haev been sufficient, and things would have gone on nicely as a cute little sidestory about how we can all make Cortex Command a better game with a larger following. Instead, you yell, which gets no where.


No, if you'd take the time to notice timestamps. I have a job, I go to school, and I do stuff. This forum is a nice little hobby. I enjoy it, mostly, when people don't get upset when they are given commentary they don't like.


While I suspected as much, you should have said so out loud and in a post. Regardless, its a draft, as you admit, s oyou should be a little bit more open to outside commentary and suggestions.


I'm going to ignore the badly used economic metaphor for the moment and focus on the meat of what you said. I had no reason to think it wouldn't be published. You said it was for a school paper, and I was completely flabbergasted someone might have planned to submit that. Again, you should have specified a) that it was a draft, and b) that you were not open to commentary.


Well put.


Here's the problem. By deciding that you're going to take it upon yourself to publicize this game to your audience, you've taken on a responsibility to do so clearly, concisely, and intelligently. Given the circumstances, believing it was a final copy to be published in your school's periodical, I hoped that maybe I could help you fix it before it was submitted so that the CC community is not portrayed as a bunch of uneducated illiterates.


That's your call. No one asked you to do it, so its your time investment that is a sunk cost. Sorry, chum.


You obviously misunderstood. I only offered to proofread it for you in the interests in protecting the image of this community. I felt that, as a more experienced writer, I could offer you genuinely thoughtful help. Obviously, you feel that extending my hand in a gesture of friendship and assistance is me asking you to change.

If you look back at everything I've said, all I've wanted to do is help.