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3 solid wrote:
You spelled technical wrong.
Windows is as powerful as Mac. Atleast XP is. Windows is easy to use, runs well, and is only slow if you download too much.

I spelled wrong because my main language is Italian, not English :)

What do you mean for powerful? Do you know that games under wine (a sort of virtualization under linux) most of the time run faster then natively on Windows? Do you know that under Linux i NEVER use my swap partition? Do you know why windows often freeze when you are doing stupid tasks? Do you know that under Unix based system, fragmentation doesn't even exist and that my ubuntu starts faster every time i run it because of an intelligent filesystem usage?

Is Windows really so powerful as you say?

Windows is easy to use not for the concept, but because people it's used to it..
Macs are a lot easier (Ubuntu it's getting near every dist that come out): no horrible regedit, easy to install & remove programs..

And remember Windows is slow after you use it for sometime...not if you just download too much (see fragmentation and registry entries..)


Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:13 pm
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Well, how is it for games? i.e Halo 2, Command & Conquer 3, Supreme Commander, World Of Warcraft, Half-Life 2 (and Counter-Strike, Portal, other STEAM games) and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


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Holy Mombasa wrote:
Well, how is it for games? i.e Halo 2, Command & Conquer 3, Supreme Commander, World Of Warcraft, Half-Life 2 (and Counter-Strike, Portal, other STEAM games) and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Except for Halo 2 (you will need Vista for it, thanks to Microsoft marketing division),and STALKER, i'm not informed about it, all those games are supported by Cedega (commercial implementation of Wine), and you can play them with high frame rate (sometimes better than in XP, everytime better than in Vista).

:o

I have a clean installation of XP just for games.
Read well: just for games.

Linux for the rest (Internet, film, p2p, chat, work, print, scan, EnemyTerritory, ecc...) --> 80% of my pc time


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I find that the only time it freezes is...

A. My fault.
B. My fault.
C. My fault.
D. A virus.
E. My fault.

So windows is fine. The only thing that is wrong with my windows is the fleshy thing behind the keyboard.


Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:28 pm
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3 solid wrote:
I find that the only time it freezes is...

A. My fault.
B. My fault.
C. My fault.
D. A virus.
E. My fault.

The only thing that is wrong with my windows is the fleshy thing behind the keyboard.

You didn't answer me.

3 solid wrote:
So windows is fine.

Nice work, Socrates.You got to the final answer.
"Windows is fine, it crashes/freeze just because of me, not for bugs or fantasy things like that..."

(take a look at Secunia, under Ubuntu/MacOS X and under WindowsXp, just for curiosity)


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Well, I just don't see why it's better. Most of everything is used on Windows, I mean the only place I've seen a Mac for sale is in an Apple store or the internet.


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Holy Mombasa wrote:
Well, I just don't see why it's better. Most of everything is used on Windows, I mean the only place I've seen a Mac for sale is in an Apple store or the internet.

I've never see a Linux pc for sale around, so?
I still think Linux/MacOS X are better than Windows.

(take a look here -> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ )


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Are you trying to sell linux or something??


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The reason why you dont see "Linux PCs" is because Linux is GNU software. Therefore, its typically non-commercial. The whole idea behind packaging a computer with an operating system is to make money. Companies who sell computers would not make money on a computer with a Linux distro pre-installed.

Additionally, there are so many distributions of Linux that fit certain niches, it would be impossible to market a single distro. Unlike Windows, hardware is not universally compatible. With a Linux distribution, you have to make sure your hardware is compatible with the operating system.

How uncool would that be if you bought a computer with Linux installed, onlt to have that distro not support your super-mega-awesome-supreme 500 dollar video card.


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The reason why you dont see "Linux PCs" is because Linux is GNU software. Therefore, its typically non-commercial. The whole idea behind packaging a computer with an operating system is to make money. Companies who sell computers would not make money on a computer with a Linux distro pre-installed.

Additionally, there are so many distributions of Linux that fit certain niches, it would be impossible to market a single distro. Unlike Windows, hardware is not universally compatible. With a Linux distribution, you have to make sure your hardware is compatible with the operating system.

How uncool would that be if you bought a computer with Linux installed, onlt to have that distro not support your super-mega-awesome-supreme 500 dollar video card.

Well, nowadays I'd say that the hardware compatibilities of the end-user distros are converging. Obviously if you pick a distro like Gentoo you'll have to do some work, but distros like Ubuntu and Sabayon have great hardware support, and will detect most hardware out of the box. I haven't found one main desktop distro that supports my hardware that another doesn't, to be honest.


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dude, there is a simple solution. Instead of using Mac Os Version__, just convert the operating system to Windows. You can do it cause they go the tutorial on internet.


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yellowsnowpros wrote:
dude, there is a simple solution. Instead of using Mac Os Version__, just convert the operating system to Windows. You can do it cause they go the tutorial on internet.


Though your help and advice is appreciated, the people you answered probably died of old age long ago.

In any case, it's enough of a contribution to keep this topic open. I seem to remember a really whiny mac fan on the devlog.


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I had a bad headache, was grouchy, and couldn't think straight sorry.


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hearty0 wrote:
It is strange no one has thought of this, but have you guys ever wondered why windows has so many viruses? I have two words that will answer that:Open Source. By open source I mean it like this. Anyone who has had a windows for a few years probably knows about the command panel and it's uses. Try to find something similar to that on a mac and you fail because windows is an open source system and mac is a closed source system. almost any programmer knows how to use the command panel which can also be used to create a little program that deletes files, and whatnot. This same open source system is also what makes it the best with games, and programs because it allows people to try it out easily without having to worry without having to build and .exe file and program it.

P.S. last few sentences were guesswork but the rest I'm pretty sure are very accurate.

Disclaimer: I am not to be held responsible at all for the accuracy of this post because I am just putting together what I have read, and heard.

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The reason linux doesn't have many viruses is because it is much less popular compared to windows people.



What in the ♥♥♥♥ are you rambling about, newbie?

That's not what open source means and I have no idea what in the hell the rest is supposed to mean, Windows can only run Windows EXE's because there are so many security checks Windows OS's make them go through, an EXE just tells the computer what to do, and if there weren't any security checks EXE's would run on pretty much everything.


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Windows is not even remotely close to open source; it is an entirely closed-source operating system. The reason it has so many viruses is mainly due to its design, which until Vista has not treated user permissions seriously enough. On older versions of Windows, viruses have usually run rampant through systems and across the internet, but this is changing to a degree. I'm sure most people still use an administrator account to get things done, because Windows still lacks a usable way for standard users to escalate to administrator status temporarily.

Windows programs will only work with Windows because they are compiled with the Win32 APIs. There are tools to emulate these, but they're not as good as native Windows.

OS X is closed source as well, but it has a more secure design. Its low marketshare is the reason there is less software for it, but it has nothing to do with being open-source or not.

Linux actually is open-source. But this allows the technically inclined users and companies that make use of it to scan the code for exploits and contribute to the codebase. As long as skilled developers are contributing to this open source code, it keeps the base system incredibly secure. Low marketshare is not the reason for the lack of viruses on Linux.

But, of course, the best defense against malware is and will always be the end user.


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