I'm siding with Empy right now.

No, not because of a 'hate train', but simply the fact I have formed my own opinions. James could've picked any server in the world. Yes, it's good he has his, stability, ect.

But really, look at him. This isn't fully for our own good. With his own server, he has full and absolute power. He knows that.

Why your sucking up, I don't know. But I just hope you can get your head out of your ass and pay attention to the entire picture.

I mean really, Dr. Breen seemed nice, didn't he? THEN what happened...

Any of you older members, back me up here.

1. What does that have to do with anything? And also, I wasn't. I didn't say that. That is EXACTLY what you meant. You were saying I was whatever I said you/james was.

2. Libel. I don't see how you can even THINK this is true.

3. Actually, we do. Lots of it. If you weren't here back then, too bad. The older members will back me up on this. And Mr. X, apparently.

I say once again, you don't know my motives, so don't think you do.
I'm siding with James because I've actually taken the chance to talk to James as both a friend and an administrator. What makes you think he's doing this for more power? Data can remove him any second, and this really doesn't give him more. Just makes the server a giant channel that he can kick and ban you from.
I ask you this: What changes at all? What does he gain?
@Empy:
1. I was saying that, yes, but not nearly so childishly.
2. Alenth told me all about it.
3. I've been here since last July, son.

First, I can ASSUME your motives. This is a very high chance with a very low margin of error.

1. Same thing, better grammar.

2. Don't believe you, I never asked for admin. I said I had suggestions for what admins to do. Perhaps you misheard?

3. Apparently you were inactive for a long time, then. You don't remember anything he did.

Also, I used to talk to WJ too. He's a human being. But he's a MISGUIDED one. It's not wise to give him power.

Data can, but he won't. You know he won't.

What are your motives then, I'm curious. All you keep saying is "U DONT NO THEM"

You can talk to him all you want, but that doesn't mean he isn't smiling through his teeth. I'd love to belive he's changed, but as history shows....


He can gain a complete authority on us with a server, and the right to abuse anything and everything he wants to. I'm not saying he is, but he must know he can.

Good call. I didn't pick up on that. He almost got away with it.

Hey you're all fa­gs synirc/zric sucked and this is how it should've happened in the first place thread over.

Get out now, and return when you can actually discuss something.

1. Accusations go both ways.
2. No, no, Alenth specifically said that.
3. No, no, I've been active the entire time.
You've talked, but you've not understood. I've talked to Jamesy with an unbiased mind, and from my dealings with you, Empy, you are the one not to be trusted with power.
My motives are my own, X. I think James knows he's ♥♥♥♥ up, and really wants to fix it. I've been through the same thing, and it takes a lot of courage to do it. I think he's seen his mistakes, and is trying to learn from them. For instance, he never ever used to listen to the IRCians, he just threw orders. I talk with him a lot now, as does Daman and Grif. Also, I can only believe what I hear.
Also, he's still got the threat of us reporting him to Data over his head. It's just the same as a channel. Nothing has changed.
Also like to note that this is the same thing that happened between syn/zirc

How about not because you're wrong, I'm right. This is an official Datarealms IRC network run off the datarealms server. He's got just as much power as the forums, it's nothing new.

Dear god tucker, you know nothing. There is nothing above James's head, because anything sent to Data will result in an ignored letter AND a ban. You should know this.

As much hope you have for James, it's wasted. He is not a person to accept responsibility, and you know this.

He listens to the IRC because we have become a very powerful force now, and he simply has no other choice. That may not be the whole thing, but it's my paranoid speculation.

What has empy done to lose your trust? Is it simply that he doesn't agree with you?

I can't talk to James with an unbiased mind. I know human psychology. I know how people work. And I know how James acts, from months of observation.

I've known Empy much longer than you, and to tell you the truth, I've lost a lot of respect for him. He lies, he's hypocritical, and just stirs up trouble. Also, stop being so pompous and pretending to know how people think. Also, you have yet to say how much has changed.

1. Obviously. Gravity also pulls things toward the Earth's core, and we all need sustenance to live.

2. Well then I don't know why he'd think that.

2. Really? I don't remember you from the first 3-6 months.

And... where have I misused power? I don't think THAT has any evidence. Your motives are your own, but stop dodging the question. If he wants to fix it, that's great. I talked with him and he seems sincere. I let this drop for now, as long as he does not abuse power. If we report him to Data, Data won't care. Data has said that he has no dealings with the forums, WJ is over that.

And I don't remember that being a problem. At all. In fact, I didn't post at all when that happened. About the switch, that is.

Known me? Really? And what happens when I say you do NOT? We played Gmod about a week. You apparently know people in a week. That's the closest contact I've ever had with you.

Provide examples of lies and hypocrisy.

Or perhaps WizardJames wanted an IRC that was not subjected to the whims and fancies of odd server admins.

Running around shouting, "Conspiraccccyyy!!" ..is not the most productive thing to do.

Also:



Empy's gonna get op regardless of trustworthiness or whatever the hell you guys are arguing about.

Not shouting conspiracy. It's a fact that he's abused power in the past.

And still not sure why Pyro/Ophanim is angry at me and thinks I'm a worthless human being, only good for being recycled as soylent green.

Daman, I can sense you're going to post. Please make it an actual argument or statement and not just a general flame.