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Someone (Data would be best; for massive damage) please slap some sense into that douche bag wiki mod, please, mostly by pointing out all of the games that arn't quite 'full versions' and how much they phail at their job.

Various HL2 mods like Left 4 Dead and Nuclear Dawn that are in development, Duke Nukem Forever, and especially Dwarf Fortress, to name more then 3. If anything, the wiki article on dwarf fortress should be just as viable a canidate for deletion as the Corext Command page is!
ON THE STARTUP SCREEN OF DF, IT CLEARLY STATES ALPHA VERSION FFS!
And cortex command is a BETA. Betas outrank Alphas in both development level and playability.


Honestly, this idiot (IrishGuy) for a mod clearly has some sort of beef with Cortex Command, otherwise he wouldn't be doing such a clearly piss-poor job on 'removing adverts for games that dont exist'

[In short, remake the page with as much information as possible. "About" and "History" and other sub topics. Even link to the mods this community has made. If he deletes it again, then we'll know he's blind.]
[Edit 2 - All the sweeter if it was made by Data, as well, as the ultimate bitch-slap.]


Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:07 am
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Have you read his talk page?? All he seems to do is delete pages he doesnt like! And he had no grounds for deletion on most of them.


Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:30 pm
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Yeah, to him, it's like 90% of everything he deletes either "Isn't good enough for Wikipedia" or "Is an advert"


Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:24 pm
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Playing the game is irrelevant. My enjoyment of the game wouldn't magically make the article subject notable. Right now, it is a game that doesn't exist. If and when a full version is released it may be notable. Right now it definitely isn't.


Of course if he doesn't like CC then it isn't notable, right? HURR.

But seriously, it's wikipedia. This is wikipedia. Don't look away. Douchebags like him are what makes up wikipedia's dark, dark, heart.


Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:26 pm
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It's a shame that there are so many Wikipedia mods that do this. I've followed multiple other projects, and many (notable games even!) have had their pages deleted out of nowhere. :-(


Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:34 pm
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This kind of thing makes my blood boil! :x :x
So naturally, I posted a very polite response on his talk page.


Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:15 pm
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It was within the speedy deletion process. It was a blatant advertisement with no assertion of notability. A game that only exists as a beta test isn't notable.

HE HAS REPLIED!


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he replied saying it was drawing attention...what?!?
of course it would draw attention, isnt that what every article does?
and anyways how does it draw attention, it isn't shown in huge letters on the front page....bah screw it


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If he's so fking insistant on it being 'notable' then please give him these links:
http://www.greatgamesexperiment.com/gam ... d/reviews/
http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.datarealms.com/
http://www.tigsource.com/articles/2006/ ... ex-command
http://blog.pcformat.co.uk/page/pcforma ... ex_command


And this was just the first page of googles' results for "Cortex Command Reviews" (no quotes) so when Irish says it "Isn't notable" he clearly hasn't researched it. I mean common, the last link i gave is a fking BLOG! Do you know how many people see blogs every day?

There's the proof that Cortex Command IS notable, and DOES exist, AND IS IN A STATE WHICH IS PLAYABLE WHICH IS CONSIDERED BY MOST TO BE FINISHED.
Now, someone tell him that, please... I can't for the life of me figure out how to respond to the wiki talk page (needs to be more like a forum tbh)

FYI i sound angry because i'm playing angry music right now, and there's nothing worse then feeling powerless but knowing you can do something to stop it. :x


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Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:20 am
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Hit edit, put : before your post if you're responding, type, submit, done.

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Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:23 am
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And why did you give him the link to this thread? Now he's onto us. :P


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wait what did you do?


Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:30 am
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Doesn't matter
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That isn't multiple independent non-trivial sources.

He can go blow himself. I'm done fighting with this scum, no matter what we do, nothing will get the CC wiki page put back up in a legit manner.

[The term "Notable" is so vague there's absolutely no way we can fight it. Hell, CC could get hosted on CNN and it may still not fit the entirely subjective term of "Notable"]


Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:04 am
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Let's wait until it's released and Data gets rich, then we'll show him notable.


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well didn't I mention it was going to be a pain in the ass to put CC on wikipedia.org? :P

Anyways, the mod is arguing in terms of wikipedia's notability requirement, not the dictionary definition of 'notable'. Although obviously the wikipedia definition draws upon the essence of the dictionary definition.

Yes, we all think CC is worthy to be noticed; but wikipedia is not the place to make it noteworthy. It already needs to be noteworthy to gain admittance into the hallowed pages of wikipedia. Other media may review, and promote cortex command, but the wikipedia entry itself is supposed to be purely informational and unbiased.

Anyways, once the game is published and widely available beyond the immediate community, there would be more material to support a wikipedia entry. The main point to consider is that we need multiple and independent sources regarding Cortex Command. Tigsource.com may be the only good source so far really.

So once again I ask, why are we wasting time with wikipedia at this time when we can put all this energy into a user created wiki page?


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