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At the end of the day, I got Miffles to say "k"

Also I'm so drunk right now Idk how I will drive to class tomorrow but that is a hump I will overcome in due time


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i dont think youre really the winner here if youre going to hold your knowledge of politics over me like its something impressive
im not even a donald trump supporter but the amount of ignorance regarding his actual stances is very annoying. what you read from yellow journalist headlines does not give you a colorful political background at all.
i actually would prefer bernie to win, but i dont believe that to be a realistic goal.
if it comes down to it, id rather go with a loudmouthed man i can trust than someone whose political confidentiality is going under major review right this very minute, and who relies on the money of very rich interest groups to forward her campaign. donald trump winning could be a possible stepping stone to toning back the importance of money in our political system. he doesn't care about money because he already has it.
also jsyk talking about illegal immigrants who have broken the law of the united states does not make trump a racist, nor has he ever said that all mexicans are rapists or whatever inane horseshit people say on fox news


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So, this will be off topic (with respect to the currently heated conversation), but I think this will be a good change of pace.

The Swedish government wanted to be able to close the Oresund bridge* a while back** to temporarily stop the flow of asylum seekers and immigrants to Sweden because they felt like Sweden couldn't handle any more at the moment.

This was shot down by "Lagrådet" which translates to "The law council" which basically checks if a law proposition is legal***. Then a few days later after it became publicly known, they went back and said that it's not a valid law proposition anymore and that they wouldn't press this matter further****.

Though as far as I know the government wants to implement an ID-check at the Oresund bridge, which I personally think is a bad idea because of the traffic flow the bridge has.



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reminder that bengazi never happened


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Natti wrote:
honestly from a finnish perspective your politics are all ridiculous

Man isn't it great living in europe :)

well, we might not be in the eu for long if brexit goes ahead, but close enough.


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i don't get it seraph.
i thought sweden already lost it's culture while the now muslim majority reigns over.

if government nationalists want to preserve whatever is left, why shouldn't those who rule over their own land be able to close a bridge in their territory?

and are you saying there's really a organization that holds power over what laws come into play?
is that anything like that 3 house system in America, because it sounds incredibly different.


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that sounds like a much more bias driven form of the supreme court


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i don't get it seraph.
i thought sweden already lost it's culture while the now muslim majority reigns over.

if government nationalists want to preserve whatever is left, why shouldn't those who rule over their own land be able to close a bridge in their territory?

and are you saying there's really a organization that holds power over what laws come into play?
is that anything like that 3 house system in America, because it sounds incredibly different.
i honestly don't know if this is a poor attempt at trolling

first of all, 64,6% of the population were members of the church of sweden in 2014
there are no hard numbers on muslims, but five years ago there were around 100k to 500k religious muslims, according to various sources
hardly a majority

the Øresund bridge is important because it's the only land connection between Denmark and Sweden, connecting the country to mainland Europe
it understandably gets a ton of traffic
closing it would be pretty ♥♥♥♥ radical

you have to keep in mind that Sweden is in the Union, and part of the Schengen Area
so limiting the freedom of movement isn't really a nice thing to do

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that sounds like a much more bias driven form of the supreme court
bias driven? did you even read seraph's footnotes?
they literally just check if law propositions would conflict with existing laws
their rulings aren't even binding, but they're adhered to most of the time because the people on the lagrådet know their ♥♥♥♥
and you don't want conflicting laws for obvious ♥♥♥♥ reasons
jesus christ people

♥♥♥♥ it's too early to be this pissed
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Mackerel wrote:
i don't get it seraph.
i thought sweden already lost it's culture while the now muslim majority reigns over.

if government nationalists want to preserve whatever is left, why shouldn't those who rule over their own land be able to close a bridge in their territory?

and are you saying there's really a organization that holds power over what laws come into play?
is that anything like that 3 house system in America, because it sounds incredibly different.


I believe that if a society becomes more rich in culture* it accepts other people and cultures more easily thus limiting the effects of discrimination. If some people feel that their culture is "threatened"** they may become aggressive over that their culture is "declining"***.

The problem with the current Prime minister of Sweden is that he literally said something along the lines of "My Europe doesn't build walls!"**** in the election and then a while after the election said something along the lines of "It may appear that we have been too naive." and then the law proposition appeared, this is the timeline of the important events in this issue.

Natti's explanation was great.

The "Lagrådet" holds no real power*****, when they criticize a law proposition, it is because of the law proposition being in conflict with current laws which is a big problem and thus they advice the government to edit the law proposition.

Currently the ID-checks prolong train rides to Sweden from Denmark with 10 to 50 minutes. Closing the bridge would also have a big economic impact for the companies operating over the Oresund bridge which would all in all be bad for commerse.



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lol please get mad because i dont understand your obscure country's law systems
please


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lol please get mad because i dont understand your obscure country's law systems
please
mostly i'm pissed at your lack of reading comprehension
not even my country btw


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idk where you live other than "northern europe" and you got pretty mad so i assumed
whens the last time i yelled at someone for not knowing about canadian parliament
never


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idk where you live other than "northern europe" and you got pretty mad so i assumed
whens the last time i yelled at someone for not knowing about canadian parliament
never
sry i missed the announcement of the federalization of the nordic countries


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and you yell at ME for reading comprehension


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I'm just going to keep a generic sentence here symbolizing that I'm still here.


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