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The share business is catering to the recent wave in popular gaming videos. We could see a lot of nouveaux youtube poop once that happens, but obviously it's neat nonetheless.


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The share business is catering to the recent wave in popular gaming videos. We could see a lot of nouveaux youtube poop once that happens, but obviously it's neat nonetheless.


Yeah but presuming the percentage of insufferable morons on the internet stays around the same, but the number of people with internet access rises, that's going to happen either way.

The sad thing is that oftentimes the good products of these types of features get buried in the tidal wave of ♥♥♥♥.


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The share business is catering to the recent wave in popular gaming videos. We could see a lot of nouveaux youtube poop once that happens, but obviously it's neat nonetheless.

Americas Funniest Home Youtube Gaming Poop


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Oh damn, I'm too late to argue with HKU.

...what TLB said. All of it.


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From the simple point of view of the controller (which is the part we're talking about here), they've replaced an underused button with a quick way to do something more useful. I can't think of the last time I actually used the select button. Is there really such a deficit of buttons on a DS3 that changing the functionality of a single, seldom-used button is going to be seriously detrimental?

Not really, but it's still stupid.


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"Watch me play the first four minutes of Elder Scrolls 6 where I pretend I don't know what's happening even though I've played it already and thought it was great. Oh look my character appears to have a skin disorder and facial malformation, that's really funny."


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Not really, but it's still stupid.
Why? You have yet to provide any rational argument as to why it'd be stupid. Is it because it's useless? Nope, that's not it. Would it hamper the rest of the controller? Unh-uh. Stupid because that's your personal opinion on it? Oh, excuse me, I didn't realize you have a doctorate in controller design and are a respected authority on such matters. The fact that you haven't ever tried the very similar predecessor of this controller, combined with the fact that you didn't know anything about its technical functions beyond what you assumed based on a single photo, makes the fact that you still cling to your original opinion ludicrous. Well, more like tenaciously childish.


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tfw when arguments could be stopped by saying
"I think this"
instead of
"It is this"


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Ragdollmaster wrote:
TorrentHKU wrote:
Not really, but it's still stupid.
Why? You have yet to provide any rational argument as to why it'd be stupid. Is it because it's useless? Nope, that's not it. Would it hamper the rest of the controller? Unh-uh. Stupid because that's your personal opinion on it? Oh, excuse me, I didn't realize you have a doctorate in controller design and are a respected authority on such matters. The fact that you haven't ever tried the very similar predecessor of this controller, combined with the fact that you didn't know anything about its technical functions beyond what you assumed based on a single photo, makes the fact that you still cling to your original opinion ludicrous. Well, more like tenaciously childish.

It's stupid because the entire social media integration concept on a gaming console is stupid, and this is literally the PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION of that stupidity.
I am still firmly of the belief that gaming consoles are for gaming. NOT this bull♥♥♥♥.
I have a computer and a smartphone for all that bull♥♥♥♥, and plenty of other bull♥♥♥♥ as well.
I use consoles for specific kinds of games and that's it.
That is why it's stupid. Now then.

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Why? You have yet to provide any rational argument as to why it'd be stupid.
Or you like to ignore what people say so you can call them dumb.
Ragdollmaster wrote:
Is it because it's useless?
Never said it was useless. A dedicated "record" or "snapshot" button, while I think IS superfluous, is a decent idea. A "Share" button, tied to social media bull♥♥♥♥, well, see above.
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Would it hamper the rest of the controller?
Considering they literally got rid of a button in favor of it, by the strictest definition of "hamper", it DOES hamper it.
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Stupid because that's your personal opinion on it?
Internet fights are always about opinion, please keep up.
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Oh, excuse me, I didn't realize you have a doctorate in controller design and are a respected authority on such matters.
Oh you are right, I will defer to YOUR doctorate in Controller Design-ology now.
Please tell me why your opinion on this matter is so much more correct than mine, and why mine is invalidated.

I don't need to have studied something for ♥♥♥♥ years to have an opinion on it, especially when it isn't something that doesn't take years of study to do. And even if I did, as an end consumer, what I think about the product matters.
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The fact that you haven't ever tried the very similar predecessor of this controller
I've used Dualshock 1, Dualshock 2 a lot, and from what I've seen there are no major changes between it and 3. So, yeah.
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combined with the fact that you didn't know anything about its technical functions beyond what you assumed based on a single photo
It is a "Share" button. When you press it, and probably depending on how you press it, it activates either features designed to facilitate sharing of personal game achievements, or directly shares them.
IE, it takes screenshots, records video, and probably a few other miscellaneous knick-knacks related to showing your friends how cool you are at video games.
Really, it's not rocket science. If there is more to this button than meets the eye, then please. Inform me.
Oh, and it's really dumb to just assume I'm basing this off one singular photo.
Ragdollmaster wrote:
makes the fact that you still cling to your original opinion ludicrous.
The fact that I'm standing behind my perfectly valid opinion that the Share button is a waste of a button and appeases a growing trend of stupidity is ludicrous? I'm sorry, let me just start waffling between opinions then, that'll be MUCH less ludicrous.
Ragdollmaster wrote:
Well, more like tenaciously childish.
I do my best to keep things professional until someone starts insulting me first.
Why is it that you are almost always the one to do this?

tl;dr: Stop being an ass and calling it argument, and stop saying that what I think doesn't matter. Two independent requests.


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The share button is kind of dumb, but I hate the touchpad way more, because it will inevitably be used for some gimmicky functions that would work better assigned to a button.


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oh my god is this still happening


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It's stupid because the entire social media integration concept on a gaming console is stupid,
So your rationale is, "A is dumb because it is related to B and B is dumb." And why is B dumb? It's your opinion that B is dumb.
TorrentHKU wrote:
Or you like to ignore what people say so you can call them dumb.
Good job pointing out your rational arguments then, I've obviously missed all of them.
TorrentHKU wrote:
Never said it was useless. A dedicated "record" or "snapshot" button, while I think IS superfluous, is a decent idea. A "Share" button, tied to social media bull♥♥♥♥, well, see above.
>a dedicated "record" or "snapshot" button
...this is exactly what Share is. It's not somehow directly tied to Facebook or Twitter or some bull♥♥♥♥ along those lines. This is your own false assumption.
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Considering they literally got rid of a button in favor of it, by the strictest definition of "hamper", it DOES hamper it.
Considering they combined a never-used button with the pause button, it retains all previous functions while adding new ones. Ie, by both the strictest and loosest definition- by every definition- it is not hampered. It is improved.
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Internet fights are always about opinion, please keep up. / Oh you are right, I will defer to YOUR doctorate in Controller Design-ology now.
Opinions should be founded on facts. Your opinion on this seems to be, "it's dumb because I say so." I don't have a doctorate in controller design- I have some very simple and indisputable factual information on the subject and nothing more. There just isn't any logical way to twist it beyond what I've said.
TorrentHKU wrote:
Please tell me why your opinion on this matter is so much more correct than mine, and why mine is invalidated.
See what I've said above.
TorrentHKU wrote:
I don't need to have studied something for ♥♥♥♥ years to have an opinion on it, especially when it isn't something that doesn't take years of study to do.
Oh, by no means. It just takes a Google search and 3 minutes of reading an article on what the controller, or specifically, the Share button, actually does.
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I've used Dualshock 1, Dualshock 2 a lot, and from what I've seen there are no major changes between it and 3. So, yeah.
Yet earlier you talked about how bad wireless controllers are and why that means that the DS4's wireless will be bad; yet, having no experience with 3, you didn't know that Sony had wireless down pat already. Otherwise you would never have brought that up, no?
TorrentHKU wrote:
It is a "Share" button. When you press it, and probably depending on how you press it, it activates either features designed to facilitate sharing of personal game achievements, or directly shares them. IE, it takes screenshots, records video,
Hold that thought.
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Never said it was useless. A dedicated "record" or "snapshot" button, while I think IS superfluous, is a decent idea.
So is your only problem with "Share" your assumption that it's directly connected to Facebook or something? Rest assured, as I said previously, it's not. It's a clientside function. You can take screenshots and record video and never share them with anybody but your own hard drive, for future memories. I even brought this up earlier- it's not like once you press Share, bam, Facebook pops up and you get to tag all your gamerbuddies and ♥♥♥♥. How could that possibly be feasible for any realtime multiplayer game?
TorrentHKU wrote:
The fact that I'm standing behind my perfectly valid opinion that the Share button is a waste of a button and appeases a growing trend of stupidity is ludicrous?
Ah, but no, it's not a useless button. You even said so yourself. See?
TorrentHKU wrote:
Never said it was useless. A dedicated "record" or "snapshot" button, while I think IS superfluous, is a decent idea.
Because, again, that's what the Share button is. Regardless, even if it did "appease a growing trend" of social media integration, you have yet to explain why you find that stupid- the same fallacy as your first point.
TorrentHKU wrote:
I do my best to keep things professional until someone starts insulting me first.
Professional? You could've looked all of this up in 5 minutes, tops. For some reason, you saw "Share" and this triggered some sort of rage-aneurysm and had you going off about Facebook. Maybe you just have some kind of psychological reaction to five-letter words that start with S, it would explain why Sothe is able to anger you so easily.
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Stop being an ass and calling it argument, and stop saying that what I think doesn't matter. Two independent requests.
I said what you thought didn't matter? If that was my opinion... why would I ever have responded to your posts at all? I would have ignored them, no? As for calling this an argument, it's not an argument. You misunderstood something and I am trying to correct your understanding about it. Really, I'm a philanthropic agent of enlightenment.
Metal Chao wrote:
oh my god is this still happening
Look here chao, I am enlightening people. Your period-lacking all-lower-caps response of disdain cannot change that fact, enemy of truth!

Done yet, or will you now explain why anything remotely related to social media is a horrible, horrible thing, regardless of whether it is optional and simply available for those who'd like it?


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I've been playing Space Station 13 again recently with some friends
We usually only manage about 7-14 people so some of the gamemodes don't really work properly and everything is understaffed but it's pretty fun

I never knew enough people to get even a tiny private server going before so it is a nice experience


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Metal Chao wrote:
I've been playing Space Station 13 again recently with some friends
We usually only manage about 7-14 people so some of the gamemodes don't really work properly and everything is understaffed but it's pretty fun

I never knew enough people to get even a tiny private server going before so it is a nice experience

Hopy shote
I play SS13 like
all the time
We should play together


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