I return with arms and a hand.


Most of these were drawn from mind, the bottom middle and bottom right things were drawn from observation of my own limbs.
In other news, my forearm is approx 1.25x as long as my hand is from palm to fingertip, and fists look retarded from the top. (never realized the thumb stuck out that far)

Couple of things I noticed.
With straightened out arms, the narrowness of the elbow compared to the thickness of the bicep and forearm seems to be the main determining factor in if it looks right.
With bent arms, The outside of the bicep flattens out, the elbow becomes quite defined, and the interior of the arm bulks up substantially.


Oh, and Geti, in that sprite image at the top of the page, the fence posts look weird because the bottoms are flat but the tops are rounded.

Re: First para-
Me too, on all counts, haha. I'm doing Uni alongside development so it's been a little more full on than I'd hope, but it's certainly enjoyable.

Nothing wrong with Game Maker. A lot of my favourite games have been made in game maker; spelunky, 0space, recently hotline miami. Java's not got a lot of framework support, and Scala is a much nicer language that runs on the JVM (-> can use all the java classes). I'm working on this framework to help improve the framework situation for wannabe java devs, but I'm thinking of porting to scala because I really do hate wrapping everything in trycatch blocks.
...That's beside the point though, best of luck binary bloat like that isn't so bad; you'd have to package it with the game somehow.

Gotta go, bombzero go to posemaniacs and do 1 hour every day of 5 min form studies. If you do, in 2 weeks you'll be way more on top of things, and very sick of drawing naked people. Those arms are looking a bit better anyway.

Scala, eh? Gotta check that out, thanks. c:
Also, the biggest hurdle with packaging the music is that i have 8 or so tracks that i'm not allowed to distribute, since i got hold of them with permission from the musician while they were still publically available. If i can somehow pack it in a file where it can't be retrieved, then i'd totally do that, though.

@bombzero: Upper arm seems a bit skinny in comparison to the forearm, it should usually be thicker. Your MANLY BICEPS tend to do more lifting than your forearms (if not only because they're lifting the forearms), which USUALLY leads to the upper arm being a smidge thicker. If it's not, you might want to accentuate the elbow, since i can see my elbow joints bulge out sideways (or up/down depending on direction) rather than being completely flat.
Other than that, pretty good!

In completely different news, i recently passed the magical 9000 pageviews on deviantArt, so i just had to do something special for the occasion.


STICKMANIMATION

and hatfish

Ah, yah, see I seem to have inherited my physical appearance from the scottish/irish (barrel chested, thick limbs, thick neck, broad shoulders, etc) side of the family, so my entire arm is generally quite bulky, making it a bit hard to compare to that of a skinnier person.

Thanks for the advice though, you too Geti.

1: Scala is very nice if you're thinking java might be a suitable platform for you, less exception nightmarishness, operator overloads (so your vector maths actually looks like maths instead of a series of operator functions), expression and statement equivalence, its generally a nice language; C++ is what we use for KAG in case you're wondering.
2: It's basically impossible to make a file that someone can use but not get the contents of. If you have sprites, to display them to people you have to turn them into the form people can see - where they can be captured by a screenshot, no decryption needed on the users part. If you have sounds, same goes for converting it to an audio stream - can be ripped with sound recorder or other myriad utilities, or even just with a mic pointed at the speakers. Just a heads up

Are we talking about programming?
C# and XNA are pretty good for people who are trying to learn their first programming language for the purpose of making games (fairly similar to Java actually, though it's more like C++ with safety wheels stuck on) although C# isn't going to run on anything that isn't Windows.
C++ is more efficient than Java and C# both by far, but also has infinitely more capacity to let you ♥♥♥♥ yourself over. If you prefer learning by jumping in at the deep end though then do that.

Unity works with both C#, Java and C++ (for when you want to move on to man programming) and is a good development environment in general... provided you're making something 3D. I imagine most people here aren't going to be doing that.
You can do 2D stuff in it too I am told but I'd really say XNA is probably better for that.

Well if you're going that route then there's no point to trying to protect any of your stuff at all. Anyone determined enough WILL hack ANYTHING. It's just a rule of life.
If you hide it, and preferably make it difficult/impossible to simply yoink the assets out the file structure, you've done your part.
If someone wants to jack the audio stream, well, that sucks, not a hell of a lot ANYONE could do about that.

Ok so I did a few sketches using posemaniacs.com today on the little 30 second timer drawing thingy app(technical language), these are the first 8 anatomically focused drawings I have ever done in my life.

(It's a 1600x4800 image for purposes of drawing it and clarity for anyone hoping to view it, just a friendly warning if you happen to still be on dial-up or somethin)


If you want to comment on a specific one feel free to refer to them in this order.
1, 2
3, 4
5, 6
7, 8

It's a lot easier I find, if you break the body up; because it's a compound of several complex parts, practising the individual bits then attaching them all onto a guide base.

Yeah I'm... not really sure what happened there.



Well, the point of this is to learn by drawing the entire body rapidly, so you have to pay attention to how it all hooks together, I would do something alot like your method normally I suppose.

Also, I did some more on the untimed mode, just so I could work on details a tad bit more.
I still tried to draw them fast, just took a bit longer on the after details.
I also added artist's comments to them. (in my ♥♥♥♥ terrible handwriting, seriously it takes talent to write on an art tablet, and my real life handwriting already sucks ass.)


(The big ♥♥♥♥ dude is, I ♥♥♥♥ you not, almost exactly as it appeared on the site. I have no clue how much steroids that guy is on, but it must be a assload of em)

I like the guy who has a fist penis

When the image popped up on posemaniac I was like "God damnit, everyone is just going to comment on that" =p

dammit chao i didn't want to have a quote in my sig but you're forcing my hand now

Also, looking much better now, bombzero! You're way past my limited expertise now, so congratulations on that, for what it's worth. :U

Alright, I'm kinda pissed off right now because an old problem of mine has reappeared.
Does anybody here ever have a problem with, like, when you're practicing something and suddenly it's like everything you've learned just disappears?
I think the problem is that I'm overtrying because I start to form a conception of what "right" is and ♥♥♥♥ up everything trying to do it right.

I guess all I'm asking if anybody else has had this problem when it comes to art, what did you do to deal with it? Out of nowhere I just cannot do anatomy anymore and it's kinda pissing me off because I'm suddenly making dozens of mistakes.

Are you sure you're not just suddenly recognizing your mistakes? Because that can happen.