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♥♥♥♥ I NEED A CAMERA.
Will shitty laptop webcam pix do?


Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:05 am
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TODAY I FINISHED BUILDING A GUNDAM.
WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥ DID YOU ACCOMPLISH?

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I got money and leveled up.


Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:11 am
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TorrentHKU wrote:
TODAY I FINISHED BUILDING A GUNDAM.
WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥ DID YOU ACCOMPLISH?


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I beat one level of MvM with a really good team. I feel good about myself.


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Harzipan wrote:
I beat one level of MvM with a really good team. I feel good about myself.

Yeah, I did too. The first level is really difficult, but it felt great to beat it. I did get shitty items though.


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Two of the people in my team used their extra item tickets. I got two weapons I already had, and a Christmas bat for the scout, who I barely touch.

That said, engineers are invaluable, while snipers are mostly useless when fighting anything that isn't a giant.


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Most of the MvM exclusive items aren't that impressive
The only weapons I'd like are the wrenches and most of the the hats/miscs are barely noticable


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Hey, I learnt something important today!

♥♥♥♥ INTENTS!


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I found the Huo-Long Heater from a drop, but I got the Force-A-Nature from winning MvM.


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Last night I had some awesome MvM times with a friend of mine, Ragnarox, Adriaan, Kelas and Amazigh.
Goddammit it's a fun coop mode.


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Re-installed TF2 and my friend gave me a Rocket Jumper and a Market Gardener. Holy ♥♥♥♥ is the Market Gardener ever fun but damn hard to use.


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Harzipan wrote:
That said, engineers are invaluable, while snipers are mostly useless when fighting anything that isn't a giant.


Only if they're terrible. First things first, equip the Machina*. Your top priorities should be maxing out charge rate and explosive headshots. And, as always, shoot the medic bots first. A sniper won't make or break a round unless they're truly incompetent at it and much better at another class, but a good one can make things much more favourable for you.

*The Heatmaker is also nice due to its Focus mode, but the Machina's bonuses are better-suited for MvM in my experience.

The thing about Explosive Headshots is that any time you score a headshot (which should be fairly often, the bots are bad at dodging) zappy stuff will arc to the heads of any nearby bots and make them suffer a short bleed effect that takes a pretty sizeable chunk out of their health, softening them up for your teammates. Upgrading Explosive Headshots increases the range, damage, and duration of the zappy bleed effect. Throw in the fact the Machina can score multiple headshots (and bodyshots) when fully-charged even without the damage upgrades, and you can cripple and rip up mobs of enemies -- especially with a couple of teammates around to clean up afterwards. The Machina's ability to penetrate and kill when fully charged is invaluable because those medics will use their healtargets as bullet sponges. All other sniper rifles have to pay a not insignificant amount of money for the priviledge of penetrating shots - though the Machina can benefit from it as well if you frequently fire without charging to 100% each time.

Start throwing in the damage upgrades and you can do upwards of 700, maybe more than 1000 damage, when headshotting superbots. Any waves with lots of large, slow-moving enemies (minigun heavybots!) will fall before you in no time. Snipers are also handy for picking off sniperbots, since they broadcast their location with the blue beam and don't usually have the sniping speed/pop-out-shoot-duck-in behaviour of normal players.

That said, Sniper is definitely an optional class, as a competent scout or pyro should be ambushing the medicbots to kill them. About the only thing they aren't really effective against, I would say... is the Tank.

Every class has their role, same as in the normal game.


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Woot.

Been waiting for another grand strategy game.


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That's it, I'm buying a computer.
Just kidding, I need money.


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I'm buying new speakers. All the Paradox grand strategy games have epic soundtracks.

Here, an example.

Europa Universalis 3.


Hearts of Iron 3. I always placed as Germany to see how well I could do the war. Best run was conquering the entirety of Europe, Asia and northern Africa by 1943 and starting the landings across the east coast of North America. Difficult, but fun.


Crusader Kings 2.


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Non and I played through 6/7 waves on MvM, then everybody left so we couldn't continue.


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