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Metal Chao
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:04 pm Posts: 2901
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Re: Art Dump
No matter how it is framed you should take his advice, shading like that is an easy habit to fall into and a bad one to do. Gradient shading (that is what it is, even if you didn't use a gradient tool) is both unappealing and unrealistic. You need to make sure you have a clear light source and make less use of whatever dodge/burn tool or transparent brush you have been using.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:00 am |
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Bombzero
Joined: Sat May 19, 2012 9:27 pm Posts: 364
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Re: Art Dump
metal chao wrote: No matter how it is framed you should take his advice, shading like that is an easy habit to fall into and a bad one to do. Gradient shading (that is what it is, even if you didn't use a gradient tool) is both unappealing and unrealistic. You need to make sure you have a clear light source and make less use of whatever dodge/burn tool or transparent brush you have been using. Yes but typically people aiming to offer helpful advice and not just be rude/trolling tend to actually... offer helpful advice, not say "it sucks, don't do it again." Now im presuming Miggles didn't intend to be rude/troll but it would be nicer if when critiquing somebodies second colored drawing they have ever made to offer a positive alternative to the thing you have a problem with. EDIT: on a side note would anybody care to help me figure out why the first colored image and the second one have a severe gap in quality? im assuming its because in the first one i actually had a light source that wasn't ambiguous.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:16 am |
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TorrentHKU
Loose Canon
Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:07 pm Posts: 2992 Location: --------------->
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Re: Art Dump
Pretty much that, yeah. Lightning makes a lot of difference.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:19 am |
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Metal Chao
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:04 pm Posts: 2901
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Re: Art Dump
Honestly the first one could have done with a lot more contrast too and what shading you have doesn't exactly make sense. Everything on the body seems to be a curved plane even when it shouldn't be and shading with a white light source makes things look a little unnatural. Try shifting your hue at the same time as the luminosity. You even have patches of light just appearing in the middle of nowhere!
Try and consider where contours would be on the body (such as between those plates you have that you have shaded as a single shape with outlines drawn across it) and shade there, and don't go overboard!
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:28 am |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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Re: Art Dump
Flat two color shading beats gradient shading by ∞.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:11 pm |
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Bombzero
Joined: Sat May 19, 2012 9:27 pm Posts: 364
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Re: Art Dump
Lizardheim wrote: Flat two color shading beats gradient shading by ∞. this is a good tip I suppose, the main issue is the skill difference required to make gradient shading look good, as you basically have to have a very good knowledge of how lighting, different materials, different textures, and contours work in the real world, more so then normal people would.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:17 pm |
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CrazyMLC
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:20 am Posts: 4772 Location: Good news everyone!
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Re: Art Dump
Dorothy Ainsworth wrote: You are smarter and more capable than you think. You can't learn if you don't try. If a task looks daunting, get started anyway. Take it one step at a time. Dream big but take baby steps. Write down a plan. List your priorities. Number them. Start in with whatever it takes to get started. "You can't learn if you don't try.""If at first you don't succeed, try try again."
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Bombzero
Joined: Sat May 19, 2012 9:27 pm Posts: 364
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Re: Art Dump
CrazyMLC wrote: Dorothy Ainsworth wrote: -stuff- Well I didn't say I was going to stop trying at that, but it is my goal to learn at least a little of every form of digital art I can think of.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:36 pm |
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CrazyMLC
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:20 am Posts: 4772 Location: Good news everyone!
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Re: Art Dump
You missed the point.
The point being to try shading using two shades, as opposed to gradient shading, until you can do it. (Then try adding in more.)
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:38 pm |
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Urch
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:15 am Posts: 720 Location: A fucking desert.
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Re: Art Dump
not even mentioning the shading, but the form of that.. gun? i mean, it is clearly meant to be a gun, given the sight + handle + 'stock', but... it doesn't *really* look like a gun, you know?
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:13 am |
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Mackerel
Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 1:30 am Posts: 2876 Location: Rent free in your head. Vacation in your ass.
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Re: Art Dump
Something about art because everyone's talking about art. Hey guys look what I made.
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:16 am |
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Metal Chao
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:04 pm Posts: 2901
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Re: Art Dump
Follow my simple instructions and you too can draw in a really shitty fashion I need to start using figure skeletons but it's a bit pointless on a character who doesn't even really have limbs
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:28 am |
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Contrary
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:50 pm Posts: 2175 Location: Neverwhere
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Re: Art Dump
I made this: It is mario. is it art?????
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:10 am |
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111herbert111
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:31 am Posts: 550 Location: error: location not found
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Re: Art Dump
it is Mario and it is Art.
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:27 am |
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Izen
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:56 am Posts: 1474 Location: At the corner of unoriginality and boring
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Re: Art Dump
111herbert111 wrote: it is Mario and it is Art. no thats luigee you dumb poerson you can tel by the blue
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:58 am |
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