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LordVonKain Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 826 Location: England	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) well i could sprite you a M202, which will most likely use a RPC as a base but it be more compact and larger as well as a 4 rocket pack on the back instead of a pure Square / rectangle. but that be later this week, assuming life issues don't crop up.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:05 am

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) LordVonKain wrote: well i could sprite you a M202, which will most likely use a RPC as a base but it be more compact and larger as well as a 4 rocket pack on the back instead of a pure Square / rectangle. but that be later this week, assuming life issues don't crop up. Nah, I'd like to think of myself as a pretty good spriter, I'll probably handle all sprites by myself also, just curious there is a "Base.rte/Effects/Glows/YellowTiny.bmp" in the Base.rte is it "kosher" to add files to the Base.rte? In addition to that, is there an easy way to make a MOPixel set actors on fire?
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:10 am

Asklar Data Realms Elite Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 6211 Location: In your office, earning your salary.	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) No one likes Base.rte being touched, since that is like the base (lol) for everything. And the easiest way (at least I can think) to make a MOPixel burn things would be adding a lua script to it.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:15 am

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Asklar wrote: No one likes Base.rte being touched, since that is like the base (lol) for everything. And the easiest way (at least I can think) to make a MOPixel burn things would be adding a lua script to it. NOOOOOOO LUA j/k I'm going to have to use scripts for the gas effects anyways (or borrow and tweak them from kettenkrad, if he grants me permission (yes I am asking))
Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:08 am

Asklar Data Realms Elite Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 6211 Location: In your office, earning your salary.	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Or, instead of firing a MOPixel you could fire a very small MOSRotating that would gib into fire on contact, to simulate it is a pixel burning things.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:20 am

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Asklar wrote: Or, instead of firing a MOPixel you could fire a very small MOSRotating that would gib into fire on contact, to simulate it is a pixel burning things. that actually sounds nice, can you provide me the code to do that bit? Also, would I need a sprite for the MOSRotating? actually, scratch that, the entire point of setting people on fire would be for them to be taking persistent damage. it's good enough as is.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:25 am

Asklar Data Realms Elite Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 6211 Location: In your office, earning your salary.	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) So what do you want to do?
Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:47 am

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Asklar wrote: So what do you want to do? nothing really, having a bit of trouble spriting though. Does Win7 Paint work AT ALL? I've tried everything and it still ends up weird (yes I used palettes) Also, I'm having optimization issues (spam these and it's super laggy), and I would like the grenades to burn through less, yet I still want them to be affected by gravity (so if a grenade explodes in midair, the 3 AEmitters fall to the ground) My current code: Code: AddEffect = MOSParticle PresetName = Toxic Sulphur Particle Mass = 1 RestThreshold = -500 GlobalAccScalar = -0.05 AirResistance = 0.8 LifeTime = 2500 Sharpness = 0.1 HitsMOs = 0 GetsHitByMOs = 0 ScriptPath = Ronin.rte/Devices/Explosives/Gas.lua SpriteFile = ContentFile FilePath = Base.rte/Null.bmp FrameCount = 1 SpriteOffset = Vector X = 0 Y = 0 AngularVel = 60 ScreenEffect = ContentFile FilePath = Base.rte/Effects/Glows/GreenSmall.bmp EffectStartStrength = 0.65 EffectStopStrength = 0.0 Atom = Atom Material = Material CopyOf = Air TrailLength = 0 Framerate = 0 AddEffect = MOPixel PresetName = Burning Phosphorus Particle Mass = 0.6 AirResistance = 0.5 GlobalAccScalar = 0 Sharpness = 12 LifeTime = 600 RestThreshold = 500 HitsMOs = 1 GetsHitByMOs = 0 Color = Color R = 255 G = 255 B = 255 Atom = Atom Material = Material CopyOf = Air TrailColor = Color R = 255 G = 255 B = 255 TrailLength = 5 ScreenEffect = ContentFile FilePath = Base.rte/Effects/Glows/YellowSmall.bmp EffectStartTime = 0 EffectStopTime = 580 EffectStartStrength = 1.0 EffectStopStrength = 0.0 EffectAlwaysShows = 1 //BURNING PIECES OF PHOSPHORUS (EMITTERS) AddEffect = AEmitter PresetName = Burning Phosphorus Emitter Mass = 1 AirResistance = 0.5 RestThreshold = -100 Sharpness = 0 LifeTime = 7000 //7 Sec duration HitsMOs = 1 GetsHitByMOs = 0 SpriteFile = ContentFile FilePath = Base.rte/Effects/Gibs/BoneTinyA003.bmp FrameCount = 1 SpriteOffset = Vector X = 2 Y = 2 AtomGroup = AtomGroup AutoGenerate = 1 Material = Material CopyOf = Military Stuff Resolution = 2 Depth = 5 DeepGroup = AtomGroup AutoGenerate = 1 Material = Material CopyOf = Military Stuff Resolution = 3 Depth = 5 DeepCheck = 0 JointStrength = 10000 JointStiffness = 1 DrawAfterParent = 1 AddEmission = Emission //emit WP particles EmittedParticle = MOPixel CopyOf = Burning Phosphorus Particle Spread = 3.14 MaxVelocity = 42 MinVelocity = 40 ParticlesPerMinute = 900 PushesEmitter = 0 LifeVariation = 0.50 AddEmission = Emission //emit gas particles EmittedParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Toxic Sulphur Particle ParticlesPerMinute = 1000 Spread = 1.3 MaxVelocity = 60 MinVelocity = 5 PushesEmitter = 0 LifeVariation = 0.20 EmissionSound = Sound AddSample = ContentFile FilePath = Base.rte/Devices/Diggers/DiggerSound.wav LoopSetting = -1 // Means loop infinitely until stopped EmissionEnabled = 1 EmissionsIgnoreThis = 1 BurstSize = 2 BurstScale = 1 BurstDamage = 10 BurstTriggered = 0 EmissionDamage = 0 Flash = None FlashOnlyOnBurst = 0 AddDevice = TDExplosive PresetName = No.76 SIP Grenade AddToGroup = Bombs Description = No. 75 Self-Igniting Phosphorus Grenade. Produces Toxic Gas, Flames, and a small explosion on impact. Mass = 1.0 RestThreshold = -500 HitsMOs = 1 GetsHitByMOs = 1 SpriteFile = ContentFile FilePath = Ronin.rte/Devices/Sprites/No76.bmp FrameCount = 1 SpriteOffset = Vector X = -2 Y = -2 EntryWound = AEmitter CopyOf = Dent Metal ExitWound = AEmitter CopyOf = Dent Metal GoldValue = 15 AngularVel = 11 AtomGroup = AtomGroup AutoGenerate = 1 Material = Material CopyOf = Military Stuff Resolution = 2 Depth = 0 DeepGroup = AtomGroup AutoGenerate = 1 Material = Material CopyOf = Military Stuff Resolution = 4 Depth = 10 DeepCheck = 0 JointStrength = 100 JointStiffness = 0.5 DrawAfterParent = 0 DetonationSound = Sound Priority = 1000 AddSample = ContentFile Path = Base.rte/Sounds/Explode1.wav AddSample = ContentFile Path = Base.rte/Sounds/Explode2.wav StanceOffset = Vector X = 8 Y = 5 StartThrowOffset = Vector X = -12 Y = -5 EndThrowOffset = Vector X = -12 Y = -5 MinThrowVel = 7 MaxThrowVel = 15 TriggerDelay = 10000 ActivatesWhenReleased = 0 EffectOnGib = 1 EffectAlwaysShows = 1 ScreenEffect = ContentFile Path = Base.rte/Effects/Glows/YellowHuge.bmp AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Flame 1 Hurt Count = 10 MinVelocity = 5 MaxVelocity = 10 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Flame 2 Hurt Count = 60 MinVelocity = 5 MaxVelocity = 10 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOPixel CopyOf = Glow Explosion Huge Count = 1 Spread = 2.25 MaxVelocity = 0.1 MinVelocity = 0 InheritsVel = 0 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Side Thruster Blast Ball 1 Count = 6 MinVelocity = 25 MaxVelocity = 50 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOPixel CopyOf = Grenade Fragment Gray Count = 12 Spread = 3.1 MinVelocity = 25 MaxVelocity = 50 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOPixel CopyOf = Grenade Fragment Yellow Count = 18 Spread = 3.1 MinVelocity = 25 MaxVelocity = 50 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOPixel CopyOf = Air Blast Count = 20 MinVelocity = 25 MaxVelocity = 50 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSRotating CopyOf = Flame Ball 1 Count = 6 Spread = 3.1 MaxVelocity = 6 MinVelocity = 2 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Explosion Smoke 1 Count = 5 Spread = 3.1 MaxVelocity = 10 MinVelocity = 0 LifeVariation = 0.50 InheritsVel = 1 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Explosion Smoke 2 Count = 5 Spread = 3.1 MaxVelocity = 12 MinVelocity = 0 LifeVariation = 0.50 InheritsVel = 1 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Explosion Smoke 2 Glow Count = 5 Spread = 3.1 MaxVelocity = 10 MinVelocity = 0 LifeVariation = 0.50 InheritsVel = 1 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = AEmitter CopyOf = Explosion Trail 1 Count = 4 Spread = 3.1 MaxVelocity = 40 MinVelocity = 20 LifeVariation = 0.50 InheritsVel = 1 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = MOSParticle CopyOf = Flame Smoke 1 Count = 10 Spread = 3.1 MaxVelocity = 12 MinVelocity = 3 LifeVariation = 0.50 AddGib = Gib GibParticle = AEmitter CopyOf = Burning Phosphorus Emitter Count = 3 MaxVelocity = 5 MinVelocity = 1 InheritsVel = 1 GibImpulseLimit = 5 GibWoundLimit = 1
Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:14 am

Asklar Data Realms Elite Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 6211 Location: In your office, earning your salary.	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Rule number 1 for spriting: Windows 7 breaks sprites. NEVER USE IT! Download Windows XP's paint or use other programs such as Gimp. And about your issues, it's helpful to see the code, but I just can't see what's wrong or what you specifically want to change.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:22 am

Kettenkrad Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:51 am Posts: 1198 Location: Sydney	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) trotskygrad wrote: (or borrow and tweak them from kettenkrad, if he grants me permission (yes I am asking)) Use 'mine' if you wish, all it really is is an edited healer drone script. Honestly all I did was change a '+' to a '-'.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:41 am

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Asklar wrote: I just can't see what's wrong or what you specifically want to change. The implementation is extremely unoptimized and laggy, and the "particles" of white phosphorus that "fizzle" have a tendency to dig themselves into the ground. throw 3 of these grenades and I'll run at less than 20 FPS or so it feels. I want to optimize it and make the AEmitters stay on top of any terrain they encounter, and not totally terrainrape, but do damage to actors. Minor terrainrape (like a 2-5px deep crater) would be acceptable, but not the deep holes that are currently being forced. Is making MOPixels not damage terrain but still damage actors simply a matter of tweaking mass, velocity, and sharpness? Kettenkrad wrote: trotskygrad wrote: (or borrow and tweak them from kettenkrad, if he grants me permission (yes I am asking)) Use 'mine' if you wish, all it really is is an edited healer drone script. Honestly all I did was change a '+' to a '-'. thanks bro
Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:51 pm

Asklar Data Realms Elite Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 6211 Location: In your office, earning your salary.	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) It depends, they are damaging through a script? In that case, set Sharpness = 0 so they won't be able to pierce anything. If you want the pixels to damage (as in create wounds) actors directly you can use this formula to tweak values with ease.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:02 pm

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Asklar wrote: It depends, they are damaging through a script? In that case, set Sharpness = 0 so they won't be able to pierce anything. If you want the pixels to damage (as in create wounds) actors directly you can use this formula to tweak values with ease. No scripts, I'll take a look at that formula, thanks
Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:16 pm

trotskygrad Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm Posts: 92	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) hmm, I need people to test this thing for balance (bullet by bullet reloading for the K98 and my No. 76 SIP) ~~should I post the files in release, or here?~~ have at it: http://filesmelt.com/dl/VanillaExpansion.rte_.rar yea I know the sprite for the No. 76 is broken, :3
Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:45 am

Mingebag7 Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:24 pm Posts: 185 Location: Big Applesauce	Re: Vanilla Weapon Expansion Pack (interest) Ronin.rte doesn't have fizzle.wav. It's in your VanillaExpansion.rte. There's also no No76 sprite.
Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:43 pm

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