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Coops
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:07 am Posts: 1545 Location: That small peaceful place called Hell.
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 Re: Art Dump
All this Zombine talk got me going...  Adorable lit'l bugger ain't he?
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robolee
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 4:30 pm Posts: 1040 Location: England
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 Re: Art Dump
dabensta wrote: CC, is that what I think it is?
I think I can safely say that there is an awesome mod coming. *cough* viewtopic.php?f=61&t=16115 I made it ages ago (pretty much as soon as lua was available), there are some issues with portal placement, like the active face being the one against the terrain so you end up flying into the terrain. I've been meaning to update it for a while... But it still works in the current build and I just made that gif. edit from the future: the above linked mod is old (2009) I recently (08/2011) released an updated version that is MUCH better, here's a link to the updated version: viewtopic.php?f=61&t=25292
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:53 pm |
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madmax
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:01 pm Posts: 378 Location: Nomadic
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BigBomb wrote: madmax wrote: What's the problem with MS Paint?  From what I've heard, it's "horrible looking" and "very mocking". That's like calling a car shitty because the people who drive it are bad drivers. You can't blame the tools for bad art. I know of an artist who paints with coffee stains and menstrual blood. I know Paint has a Stigma due to all the...fine people... at DA who use it for their creepy fandoms, that's a shame, but anyway I'm not trying to defend Paint, I'm just tired of the old belief that people need certain tools to draw. Same story goes for people who think a drawing tablet will suddenly make them an accomplished artist. /soapbox
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:08 pm |
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Geti
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:57 am Posts: 4886 Location: some compy
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No, but you can get better tools that are more suitable for art. Menstrual blood and coffee are closer in quality to acrylics than MSPaint is to a good graphical editor.
We've had this conversation before, I think.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:37 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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 Re: Art Dump
Graphicsgale increased my productivity by 333%.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:01 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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 Re: Art Dump
For spriting? Graphicsgale. For painting? Photoshop.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:04 pm |
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madmax
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:01 pm Posts: 378 Location: Nomadic
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Geti wrote: No, but you can get better tools that are more suitable for art. Menstrual blood and coffee are closer in quality to acrylics than MSPaint is to a good graphical editor.
We've had this conversation before, I think. It doesn't have layers or AA, that's about as far as it is from any other program. good renderings can come fairly easily without those two things or any auto-rendering gimmicks like filters. Of course there are more suitable programs but for a quick flash of inspiration MS paint is fast to load and easy to use. Anyway that wasn't the point. PS, Coffee and blood are probably closer to an ink wash or watercolor IMO.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:24 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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You're comparing colors to tools. Stop doing that.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:09 pm |
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madmax
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:01 pm Posts: 378 Location: Nomadic
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Huh? The blood and coffee thing is just about how unorthodox mediums like Paint can be used effectively.
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Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:31 pm |
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CrazyMLC
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:20 am Posts: 4772 Location: Good news everyone!
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 Re: Art Dump
imo MSPaint is great for its simplicity, but lately I have been liking GraphicsGale a lot.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:18 am |
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robolee
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 4:30 pm Posts: 1040 Location: England
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There are many reasons why mspaint is pretty ♥♥♥♥ compared to graphics gale:
To change colours you have to go to that edit colours window instead of just having colour options on screen all the time. These apply to the windows 7 version: All the brushes and shapes are now anti-aliased. Where the click point of the cursor is is very slightly ambiguous/misaligned with the tools.
Other than that there are no cons I can think of other than it being incredibly basic since it has pretty much no pros either (except what would be standard in any other editor. Actually the resizing on the fly is pretty cool and pretty much the only reason I ever use paint.
Now in Graphics Gale you have: Up to 4000% zoom as opposed to 800%. RGB and HSL sliders without having to go to another screen. Displayed full palettes. (I have mine set to default to the CC palette) Grid options for tiled work/sprite sheets, including snap to grid. Layers (though I never use them). Right click colour select. Preview window that displays your image in 1x or 2x,3x,4x.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:46 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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Also you can change indexing etc in settings, handy for CC mods.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:25 pm |
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Contrary
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:50 pm Posts: 2175 Location: Neverwhere
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I use MSPaint because the other ones are too complicated for me because I'm a conforming non-conformist.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:59 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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I thought you used it because you're a conforming non-conformist.
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Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:08 pm |
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Coops
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:07 am Posts: 1545 Location: That small peaceful place called Hell.
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 I still need to get the laser trail right, same with the shadow. EDIT: Yeah, better shadows now. 
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