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			| Darkdoom 
					Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:06 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenWell the word 'non-profit' suggests they do not make a profit from any donation or sale.Am I wrong?
 
 
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			| FoiL 
					Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:02 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenThe non-profit bit usually just states that the employees them-selfs don't gain any money. That may, or may not be the case. 
 
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			| Darkdoom 
					Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:06 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible Children (them in 2003) Yea cause 3 young filmmakers from California are such sleazy corporate CEOs. I mean really, all they want to do if help people and you already think they are just using people for money. Did you even look at what invisible children is about? or how it got started?
 
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			| FoiL 
					Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:02 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenExcuse me, but I haven't commented on any organization. All I've stated are my thoughts on the general matter. 
 
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			| Darkdoom 
					Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:06 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenWell since this is a thread about a certain organization I assumed that you meant this one.This only makes sense, right?
 
 
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			| FoiL 
					Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:02 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenNot really, it just means you assumed something. 
 
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			| Darkdoom 
					Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:06 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenSo my line of logic is flawed?I make a thread about a certain organization and what they do > You post on/about it, presumably about the point of the thread.
 Apparently your's is something like this?
 Darkdoom makes a thread about a certain organization and what they do > I do not like/believe in charity > I post about charity in general
 Please note that the one from your perspective is in, well your perspective.
 Correct me if I am wrong.
 
 
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			| Petethegoat 
					Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:02 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenThat's a really confusing way of making your point.It doesn't really matter anyway, FoiL has clarified his position.
 
 
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			| FoiL 
					Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:02 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenDarkdoom wrote: Darkdoom makes a thread about a certain organization and what they do > I do not like/believe in charity > I post about charity in generalSpot on. And you can confirm this with every single one of my posts.
 
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			| Dauss A HUMAN BRAIN, SAFELY INSULATED FROM THE TERRORS OF HYPERSPACE 
					Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:54 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenThey look like a bunch of hipsters. Why would I pay for hipsters to do ANYTHING? 
 
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			| Darkdoom 
					Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:06 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenOh well. Either way, this thread wasn't made to start a debate. it was made to spread the word.
 
 
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			| Cadwaller 
					Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:12 am
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenIt seems like on these issues there are either people bogged down in self righteousness or people who automatically disregard an issue because they care more about not being manipulated by whatever guilt message is being given than the actual problems, because they have stereotyped all forms of advocacy or "awareness campaigning" as something that only foolish emotional types are susceptible to.  A realistic approach to have is to allow the emotional people to continue with harmless advocacy, and realize that a more "realistic" person can also help, rather than just standing and insulting the emotional people, by donating time or money to the organization.  This specific orginization spoke at my school. and regardless of my desire to label it as cliche and disregard it, I found out with listening that it is actually very effective in policy.  Not only do they raise millions of dollars which directly support their issue, but they have actually created a bill which was recently accepted by congress.
 
 
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			| Dauss A HUMAN BRAIN, SAFELY INSULATED FROM THE TERRORS OF HYPERSPACE 
					Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:54 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenProtip: You can get the government to say they'll help out with anything if they think enough people are listening. Doesn't mean they will. I.E. Rwanda.
 Now, you can 'help', be it by traveling there and building houses if they need them, simultaneously doing unpaid labour instead of actual citizens of that country being paid to do it,  or donating money, which falls into approximately every single ♥♥♥♥ person's wallet that isn't who you intended to help before it gets to them.
 
 There really isn't much people or persons can do to aid a war-torn foreign nation. Go talk up a pharmaceutical company and try and convince them to lower the insane profits they make off HIV medication if you're so desperate to help Africa.
 
 
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			| Tomaster DRLGrump 
					Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:26 am
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenI'm a little late, but yes, I've heard of something called compassion. In fact, I've got it. Sadly, I've only got it for people close to me, emotionally or physically. While the earthquake in Japan is terrible, as is a war-torn nation, I've already said there's nothing I could about it, short of going over there, which I'm unable to do. So instead of feeling sad and depressed about people dying, I instead choose not care about it. If a devastating earthquake hit Georgia, but didn't affect me, I'd be doing all I could to help out victims, since they're both physically close, and I might actually know some of them.
 Additionally, please don't put words in my mouth. I never said it doesn't matter. I just said I find it hard to care about it.
 
 Lastly, it seems to me like you're becoming a bit aggressive in your defense of these organizations. You're not really putting forward good arguments, and I'm not sure if English is your first language, but you'll probably get a bit more respect/attention if you learn to type full sentences.
 
 
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			| Contrary 
					Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:50 pm
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   |   Re: Invisible ChildrenDarkdoom wrote: @ContraryMaybe it is useless, but in the overall scheme of things you are useless... almost every human is.
 
What's this suppose to mean, ♥♥♥♥♥♥? I'm on your side.
 
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