So until Notch pulls his head out of his ass and fixes the authentication servers I'm officially calling it closed until further notice on the zone.

Use the space if you want but uh I suggest you don't, once the auth servers are fixed I'm going to ask the admins to start it over again.

Why don't we try again with another area? Something that's like 150 or 200 squared? Something with cooler terrain.

Does this mean I can be unbanned, since MLC fessed up to being the dickwad?

and AG, in the future, before you try to accuse someone of abusing worldedit, you may want to check and see who has access to worldedit. I'm only a dark green, and I can't use it.

You just wanted someone to blame and I was a propos because I ganked all of your stuff.

I can't speak for all the admins but I can tell you most of us have not dared to used worldedit within the pvp area. I've gone in a few times just to see what you guys are up to in there and I can't imagine leaving it anything other than the way I found it.

Sounds like we need to take worldediting commands away for a while. They make the server unstable as hell anyway (evidence being that I managed to make the game unplayable for what was that, ten minutes?), so lets see how everything works with nobody having anything but the wand tool.

Double post for important informations.
I'm going to make some radical changes to the groups and map divisions later today, which will involve splitting the populace into two major groups. Decide which you'd like to be placed in and inform me, either the Creative players or the Survival players.
As you would expect, this involves whether or not you have the aid of /item.

The question here is: How do you prevent people with /item from going into PVP areas and wrecking everything. Something to consider.

Huge as ♥♥♥♥ regions?

Giant ass adminium great wall.

Survival.


Make the warp to the survival area only available to a certain rank or something.

Is Survival non-PvP an option?
If so, I'm there.

Just go creative and like trek far away from the uber stuff. xD

Mobs are off, so no.

I'll go PvP.

Didn't we not have /Item anyways? Is that changing?

In the time that I have between classes, here's a rough overview.
There is a plugin I'm going to be installing that not only restricts block placement but also movement and total map size. With that installed, I'm going to limit the map to a radius of 8000ish blocks (the long-ass portion of terrain I genned in the north is about 10000 long, for comparison) and split the area down the middle (invisibly so, you'll be notified if you've attempted to leave a zone with private chat messages).

On one side will be the Creative players, who will regain the privilege of /item but not /tp or /tphere (unless the plugin can restrict that to the region as well) and may do whatever they please on their side of the map. They may also claim specific regions for themselves to restrict others from destroying or modifying their structures.

On the other side, there will be the Survival players, who will not have the benefit of /item, and most definitely not /tp or /tphere. They will, however, have the benefit of claiming regions as well, with a predesignated area of terrain (likely 600 square or more depending on the thoughts of the people I talk to while making it) that is specifically for pvp, designated by me. In their own regions, players can enable or disable pvp as they wish, which is why I designated this side of the wall as "Survival" rather than "PvP".

You may switch sides at any time, but I will clear your inventory if you are going to the Survival side of things.

As far as policing, I will designate from each side people who will be local ops, who will retain the power to kick and ban (but on the survival side, not tp or tphere) and they may police as they wish. Whitty and myself remain the ultimate authorities, specifically in matters such as appointing and revoking op powers. Otherwise, at least I, will be mostly hands off. Direct major complaints or problems through to me, such as problems with configurations and privileges, or if you do not wish to be an op.

Feel free to point out any holes you might find in this plan, but so far, in my thoughts, it has seemed pretty waterproof.


EDIT: It occurs to me it might be fitting to do a map wipe as well. That, however, is up to you guys. It matters little to me, since making the two regions does not require any terrain to have been genned.

I absolutely love it. A++

Is the PVP flagging going to be passive? For example, THOR is flagged for PVP, Hyperkultra is flagged PVP off. Both players are in the Survival zone. Even though HK is flagged off, is he still killable or is just a way for HK to say "I am not here to die, leave me be" and isn't actively enforced.

Also, this still brings up the question of "How do we define survival?" We are a map without mobs, so what constitutes Survival Sans PVP? Is it for people who just want to build using gathered materials? I just think it'll be silly for people to be in the PVP zone but never flagged as PVP. Why would they need to be in there and build in there if they had no plans to actually engage in PVP?