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Post Re: (srs) Roll To Dodge 2 - Choose wisely
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A crate of bullets that give people explosive hemorrhoids, and diarrhea.

But that takes too long... How about bullets filled with liquid Nitrogen?


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Roast Veg wrote:
Foa wrote:
A crate of bullets that give people explosive hemorrhoids, and diarrhea.


That's diarrhoea.

Close enough.

And liquid nitrogen?
That is dumb, I think a better idea is putting nitroglycerin in a blunderbuss.


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So he kills himself?


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And liquid nitrogen?
That is dumb, I think a better idea is putting nitroglycerin in a blunderbuss.

It works in a knife.

Just have them be similar to darts, not bullets.


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caekdaemon wrote:
Foa wrote:
And liquid nitrogen?
That is dumb, I think a better idea is putting nitroglycerin in a blunderbuss.

It works in a knife.

Just have them be similar to darts, not bullets.

Okay, how about a little quicksilver to go with that liquid nitrogen?


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Last time we mentioned having a launchable WASP knife, it was deemed impossible. So Yomanticore, can we have 'impossible' weapons in the crate? After all, Mr. Nick is supernatural and such.


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Last time we mentioned having a launchable WASP knife, it was deemed impossible. So Yomanticore, can we have 'impossible' weapons in the crate? After all, Mr. Nick is supernatural and such.

How about you put the liquid nitrogen in darts, and have the gun shoot those darts.

Like a tranquilizer machine gun, or something.


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How about a hacking device?To make exosuits/robots go mad an fire at everyone


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Foa wrote:
Ociamarru wrote:
Last time we mentioned having a launchable WASP knife, it was deemed impossible. So Yomanticore, can we have 'impossible' weapons in the crate? After all, Mr. Nick is supernatural and such.

How about you put the liquid nitrogen in darts, and have the gun shoot those darts.

Like a tranquilizer machine gun, or something.

That sounds insane. But also very deadly sounding due to overdose, meaning it doubles as a lethal weapon.


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Heh, if you rolled a 1 with that you'd probably hack into your own brain.


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Darts filled with liquid nitrogen sounds like a fairly simple concept to me. How hard is it to modify a gun's reciever to fit the darts?


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Requisite needs to hurry up, I want to break stuff with my new toy!


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Darts filled with liquid nitrogen sounds like a fairly simple concept to me. How hard is it to modify a gun's receiver to fit the darts?


Very. They lack the aerodynamics of a bullet and don't have propellant to boot. Plus, many people think of guns as being "you load the bullet in, pull the trigger, and hey-o you got a dead terrorist over there". Bullets don't work by themselves- they need to be part of a cartridge to actually fire. Unlike bullets, which are part of a cartridge, darts don't have any propellant. Thus, you can't just shove darts into a modified receiver- even if the gun has a modified barrel- and expect them to fire. This is why you cannot have an automatic dart gun. It's also why many people who have use for anesthetic darts use crossbows and/or blowguns. Now, it's true, there are tranquilizer rifles out there, but those aren't ballistic rifles; they are often airguns or powered by compressed CO2. It's also why they are typically single-shot weapons. Not automatics. The closest thing you could ever get to an automatic dart launcher is a repeating crossbow. This still doesn't eliminate the problem of the fact that you can't have darts filled with ♥♥♥♥ liquid nitrogen considering the thing starts to boil and evaporate at -196 Celsius. Most military uses of liquid nitrogen pretty much boil down to it being a coolant. It's not used offensively for several reasons- namely the fact that you can't insulate such a material in bullets or darts efficiently. It's possible, maybe, but god knows if the resulting dart and/or cartridge would be aerodynamic in any way whatsoever, since it would probably have to be a metal that's not typically used for darts/projectiles. Also keep in mind that liquid nitrogen isn't some sort of super effective killer. Unless you hit them in the heart, all you're going to do is cause some pain and numbness in a very small section of their body. Even hitting their bloodstream would probably have a minute effect- liquid nitrogen would evaporate extremely quickly in such a hot environment. You'd probably end up doing more damage from the little pinprick they get when the dart hits their body- maybe be lucky enough to sever a vein if you roll a 5 or someshit.



So yeah, you have an idea (automatic liquid nitrogen dart launcher) that is impossible to implement, and even if it was, or if one of its impractical little brothers was wished for instead, it would probably be a very ineffective weapon. Why not just wish for a grenade launcher or something?

EDIT -> I realize I am the dreamcrusher of silly ideas, but really. You're making every weapon designer ever born cry. General guide for picking outlandish weapons: 1) Is it even remotely feasible with modern or foreseeable technology? 2) Would it make an effective weapon? 3) Would it make an efficient weapon, or would I be better off with a generic bullethose? 4) Is RDM going to get pissed and throw a hissy fit in the form of a text wall when I suggest this weapon?

If you can objectively answer 'yes' to the first three questions and 'no' to the last then you're probably on the right track.


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Post Re: (srs) Roll To Dodge 2 - Choose wisely
Requisite's done his wish, so I'll roll now.

@RDM: Well, showing the research it makes sense that it doesn't work, so lemme collate a few things and I'll edit this post.

Everything's ready, rolling now.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyAl9qK3Rlg

This thing better be in one of the boxes. Just sayin.


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