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Zylos Xenos
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:24 pm Posts: 13
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Thank you for showing me this.
To be honest, I've always been on the pirates side. I could give you the good ol' 101 reasons why, but the perspective is my own, and I'm not out to change it for anyone else.
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Dr. Evil
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 242 Location: The Great White North
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
caekdaemon wrote: They can block the net, but they wont stop the physically version. I guess carboot sales are gonna make a come back? lol or just run everything through Tor! Alternately, THIS
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:49 am |
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Petethegoat
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:02 pm Posts: 905
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Has that received any updates lately? I can't remember whether the version I looked at was at all stable/usable or not.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:57 am |
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Jack The Llama Commando
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:21 pm Posts: 620 Location: CONTRACTIONS I DONT NEED CONTRACTIONS
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
We shouldn't let it get to the point where we have to use darknets for everyday things.
I cannot stress this more, learn about ACTA, learn about who and what it will affect, tell your friends and family in a polite and serious fashion, explain to them how it infringes on their rights, and explain to them how if they have a son or daughter who accidentally or intentionally even downloads one song, they could be jailed and sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars. The point here is to not come across as some radical, not some 'hacker' or pirate, come across as a citizen concerned for his rights, which you should be.
This is important, don't cock it up.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:49 pm |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Quite frankly, our lives are at stake. If we don't do enough, we're going to be stuck with this ♥♥♥♥ for the foreseeable future.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:39 pm |
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Areku
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:46 pm Posts: 5212 Location: The Grills Locker.
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Well this is it, gentlemen. It's do or die. Unfortunately my hands are pretty much tied on that subject (south america etc lol), so I'm counting on you all.
Spread the word. Don't let them take away your privacy and rights.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:09 pm |
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zalo
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:11 pm Posts: 1496
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
I'll tell you right now, Youtube, and all the companies that this will affect across the web aren't going to let their profits go to nil because of this. Expect the best lawyers from some of the greatest companies around the world to work on this.
There will be blood before this thing gets passed.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:58 pm |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Apparently some people are trying to get this thing pushed through by September's end.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:01 pm |
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Disst
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:47 am Posts: 1182
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
zalo wrote: I'll tell you right now, Youtube, and all the companies that this will affect across the web aren't going to let their profits go to nil because of this. Expect the best lawyers from some of the greatest companies around the world to work on this.
There will be blood before this thing gets passed. Won't the ISPs have to pay for all the extra monitoring ♥♥♥♥ they'll have to do, and thus be very against it?
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:02 pm |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
They're already fighting against net neutrality, so I'm not sure they'll try to fight this when it's exactly what they want, they'll just block "illegal" websites and propose their own alternatives that they "carefully survey for illegal content". If they're smart that is.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:08 pm |
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FoiL
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:02 pm Posts: 1434
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
ISP's will, in fact, be very happy if this gets through.
Just imagine the amount of bandwidth they won't have to cover with torrenting and illegal downloads. They already started fighting back, at least here in Portugal, by using quite intense traffic shaping on users who use a lot of p2p, so that, and in their words, they can "keep a minimum quality service".
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:23 pm |
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Dr. Evil
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 242 Location: The Great White North
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
FoiL wrote: Just imagine the amount of bandwidth they won't have to cover with torrenting and illegal downloads. They already started fighting back, at least here in Portugal, by using quite intense traffic shaping on users who use a lot of p2p, so that, and in their words, they can "keep a minimum quality service". Heck, my ISP, rogers uses deep packet inspection to throttle everything that look like bittorrent traffic. So, of course, everyone switched to encrypted bittorrent connections. So my ISP throttles everything encrypted, including https. So, my 5mbps connection drops to 25kbps whenever I check my email or wikileaks. Stupid, eh?
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:29 pm |
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YHTFLKC
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:08 am Posts: 590 Location: USA
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Yeah I kinda like being able to do legal things.
I'm reloading that page as fast as I can, Jack.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:39 pm |
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whitty
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:31 am Posts: 2982 Location: Texas
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
Is it even legal do to something like this? The internet wasn't created to have people pay for slow ass access and have half the web cut off from them.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:54 pm |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement
whitty wrote: Is it even legal do to something like this? Well that's why they're making a treaty. That makes it legal.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:56 pm |
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