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			| tomks322 
					Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:46 pm
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   |   Rocket and Dropship DocksI have built countless hangers and when i fly my dropship in, click stay, and fly up into the dock it never stops moving. then i go fight and when i need to drop more troops i find the dropship blew up and killed everyone... Any ideas? -Thank You
 
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			| Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:44 pm | 
					
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			| FuzzyMelon 
					Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:52 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksJust use the rocket docking module. Dropships are extremely shock-sensitive, so much so that touching a wall or anything static will cause the engines to fail. They're also air-cooled so if it isn't moving enough the engines will catastrophically overheat and the whole thing blows up without warning. 
 Rockets were never designed with that fault since they can "land", and are just better to use with the docking things.
 
 
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			| Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:25 pm | 
					
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			| TorrentHKU Loose Canon 
					Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:07 pm
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksThe docks have never really worked all that well for me either, I don't think they're quick finished. But there's a zombie defense mod that has a rocket dock that works well, if I recall correctly. FuzzyMelon wrote: JThey're also air-cooled so if it isn't moving enough the engines will catastrophically overheat and the whole thing blows up without warning.Those are just called "bullets".
 
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			| Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:42 pm | 
					
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			| FuzzyMelon 
					Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:52 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksYour dropships don't explode on you when they sit still too long? I've always experienced that problem. 
 
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			| Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:46 pm | 
					
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			| TorrentHKU Loose Canon 
					Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:07 pm
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksIf your dropships were damaged, even one bullet hole, then they could've bled out and died. 
 
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			| Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:38 pm | 
					
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			| PhantomAGN 
					Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:40 am
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 Location: Deep below The Map of Mars
   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksThe docks work by making it so that the dropships never cease to move, thereby resetting the automatic self-destruct timer on all crafts.
 If you build a really stable dropship and make it just float, it will blow up midair, regardless of human control.
 The docks are a stupid fix for a stupid problem. But the rockets are better, and the crates docks are a good way to hold guys. Combined with a gravity gun it works pretty well.
 
 
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			| Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:40 pm | 
					
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			| TheLastBanana DRL Developer 
					Joined: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:27 am
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 Location: A little south and a lot west of Moscow
   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksUnfortunately, until dropships can stop moving without exploding, there won't be a proper dropship dock. 
 
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			| Lizardheim DRL Developer 
					Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksRotate it and move it around veeery gently? 
 
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			| Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:44 am | 
					
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			| carriontrooper 
					Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:27 pm
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 Location: Yogyakarta, Indonesia. A slice o' paradise.
   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksLizard wrote: Rotate it and move it around veeery gently?AKA Rock-a-bye dropship? Could be cool. Rotate it by one degree in the time span of ten seconds, then one degree in the other direction in ten seconds, ensovoort.
 
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			| Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:13 am | 
					
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			| Lizardheim DRL Developer 
					Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksYeah something like that.Or just make Dan make the hardcoded scuttle toggleable.
 
 
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			| Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:33 am | 
					
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			| TheLastBanana DRL Developer 
					Joined: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:27 am
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 Location: A little south and a lot west of Moscow
   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksThe latter will happen eventually.  Trust me when I say that a lot of testing went into the dropship docks - this was the most stable and safe form of docking I could get.  Any less subtle movements lead to explosions.  Feel free to try and find a technique that works better, though - if you can, maybe I can improve the script (with your permission, of course). 
 
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			| Lizardheim DRL Developer 
					Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksMoving the dropship in a notable "wave" motion would probably work AND look cool at the same time. 
 
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			| Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:46 am | 
					
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			| FuzzyMelon 
					Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:52 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksWhat if the dropship gibs into a large metal thing that isn't an ACDropship, so when it's docked ya have its contents memorized and then undock it it''ll essentially be the same dropship. It could just be an ACRocket that looks the same just with no functionality.
 Solves that in the most complicated way possible. I dunno.
 
 
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			| PhantomAGN 
					Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:40 am
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 Location: Deep below The Map of Mars
   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksOh, if a rocket does not autoscuttle then maybe we just need to implement the engines and hovering with Lua and redo the entire dropship class. Huh.I have to go fix my battleship now.
 
 
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			| Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:29 pm | 
					
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			| TheLastBanana DRL Developer 
					Joined: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:27 am
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   |   Re: Rocket and Dropship DocksThe wave function isn't going to happen, because it's going to be terribly inaccurate.  It's not going to look nearly as cool as you think it is, and the dropship will be just as unstable as it is now.  Imagine the current version, except the point that the dropship is anchoring to moves constantly in a wave.  Yeah.Changing the dropship is also out of the question - not only is that hacky, but it'll remove any wounds and other damage.  For a mod, maybe, but for vanilla content, that's too hacked together.
 Data will implement something to stop auto-scuttle at some point, because it's an obvious issue.  We'll just have to hold tight until then.
 
 
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