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So i can understand the whole controlling robot thing, but what about other humans? Is the main brain some really rich person who now controls masses of clones and ronin? How come the ronin aren't just other brains doing their thing? Is this some kind of class system?

Can the clones think for themselves? because shouldn't there be some kind of rogue clone faction if this is so?


Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:03 am
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We may never know, as the game currently barely has a story. I take it the coalition clones are really just "bodies" with no sentience. But Ronins, I assume they're rebels. Like I said, the story hasn't really been developed, the content is there for it though.

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Course I tend to think of a fleshy body to be a really advanced robot...


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I'll just dump what I got.

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AI ARE INFUSED INTO THE CLONES.
Be it that the clone may have no brain, a proto-brain, or normal brain, there will be some sort of basic assistance AI at the very least, included in the package.


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Cortex Command, Controlling you through a chip in your butt since 2009.


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I think the question you should be asking, is how the Dummy Controller manages to to control the units.

Perhaps it could be suggested that the Dummy Controller cases an artificial brain?


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It's your backup comp.


Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:13 pm
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The thai sex victim wrote:
I think the question you should be asking, is how the Dummy Controller manages to to control the units.

Perhaps it could be suggested that the Dummy Controller cases an artificial brain?


From what I gather it does exactly that. It doesn't make as many fleshy gibs as a normal brain when it gets destroyed, so to me anyway it makes more sense that it's more computer brain than organic tissue.


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Here's the way I see it (feel free to disagree).
I see the brain unit more as a general leading his troops, but can take over ones mind and control his body when needed, other wise he just gives orders.

The troops are like rent-a-cops on loan from tradestar once the generals dead they have no leader and are once again tradestar property.

Anyway that's how I see it.


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clOWN wrote:
So i can understand the whole controlling robot thing, but what about other humans? Is the main brain some really rich person who now controls masses of clones and ronin? How come the ronin aren't just other brains doing their thing? Is this some kind of class system?

Can the clones think for themselves? because shouldn't there be some kind of rogue clone faction if this is so?



Erm. I reckon that clones do have minds of their own, but (and this is mere speculation, but makes sense to me) have some kind of "loyalty chips" implanted in their heads, to make sure that they don't revolt or something like that, or maybe genetic programming to make them do whatever you want if you ask them "would you kindly".

Dummies, well, to me they are machines that somehow reached sentience on their own, and the controllers are the most advanced of them: they do not always control each soldier directly, but instead watch the battlefield from each dummy's point of view using the AI comlink, and issue orders accordingly. Frankly, I like to imagine the dummies as a bunch of robotic gentlemen who like to discuss philosophy and the meaning of life on their free time, despite having no mouth (or face, for all that matters).

The Ronin are basically normal humans. Due to the fact that they have this tendency to reappear even after being killed in battle, I figure they must've somehow stolen or reverse-engineered the coalition's clone tubes, an using them to either create artificial versions of themselves which they can control at a distance (much like Avatar or whatever) or transferring their mind to a new artificially-made body right before dying (as in Bioshock, that kind of stuff).

And the whitebots are a kind of collective intelligence under the control of the Mastermind, a huge megacomputer hidden inside the sun. Yeah.


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@areku I like your view especially the loyalty chip. Maybe brown coats are like a black ops r&d group? W/ said loyalty chip.


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I've always thought kinda the same way as Areku. Clones aren't brainless, but not very intelligent either.


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Natti wrote:
I've always thought kinda the same way as Areku. Clones aren't brainless, but not very intelligent either.

Full AI, Proto-brain, Full brain

Full AI packages have no brains and in it's place is an Advanced AI
Proto-Brain Packages have a brain with limited functions, and comes with an AI in the place of what is missing.
Full Brain packages have a whole entire, brain with all functions of a normal brain available, and comes with a small AI for safety's sake.


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I imagined that the coalition was just a guerilla group (along with the less successful rebel group, the Ronin) who fight for control of the planet. In order to fund their operations, they have to sell mercenaries to the tradestar, which gives contracts for brain implants that take control of the body. The brains, on the other hand, are prospectors from places behind the frontier,who get their brain removed and sent to the planet while their body is kept waiting for them back up at the station.

The dummies were some old crash-test dummies that were outfitted with primitive weapons and used by the coalition as cannon fodder. They rebelled when the coalition started rigging cyborg dummy brains in bunkers as a cheaper alternative to real brains. The cyborgs took a few dummies underground and built AIs in to them, creating a fighting force that could stand up against the coalition. Just as the coalition beat back the Ronin, they started a massive and bloody battle with the dummies, causing tradestar executives to worry how long they could hold the planet.

The tradestar called in two groups to suppress the rebellion: the browncoats and the whitebots. The brown coats were a real light infrantry group from the closest civilized system, about ten years away. Though they were a true fighting force, the browncoats came from an impoverished and backwards nation, and their weaponry was still underpowered.

The whitebots, on the other hand, were a low-end solution marketed by one of the main groups in the empires closest to Earth. They exemplified higher technology, since innovation was faster and more universal in that region. Only a few hundred whitebots were shipped out to the tradestar, but they were expected to overpower the other factions.

Unfortunately, before either force arrived, TradeStar AG's headquarters in the 581 Gliese system filed for bankruptcy, and then was sold off to other companies. Shortly after, the tradestars in the explored parts of the galaxy were sold off or destroyed, but on the frontiers, the tradestar's remained and evolved in to floating cities commanded by vigilante groups and guerillas such as the coalition. The browncoats arrived shortly after the collapse of management on Tradestar Midas, and began to fight for their own using their military training as guidelines. The whitebots have not yet arrived, but it is expected that they will do the same.

NOTE: this is all from my imagination and probably has nothing to do with the real CC storyline.


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Areku wrote:
Frankly, I like to imagine the dummies as a bunch of robotic gentlemen who like to discuss philosophy and the meaning of life on their free time, despite having no mouth (or face, for all that matters).

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Heh, that look mighty awesome. :P

Also, about the whitebots, I've just had this slightly crazy idea that they are these ultra-advanced alien machines built several to ensure the survival of their masters in a war-ravaged planet. Their creators are long gone, but still the bots continue to function, kidnapping humans at random to transform them into the organic hive-minds of their consciousness network, trying to fulfill the role they were once created for. (The robots, that is.)


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