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LowestFormOfWit
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:04 am Posts: 1559
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
The main problem I have with using animated frames to determine movement of arms/legs is because it makes adding animated attachables painful/impossible/ugly on them. Most leg attachables look fine, but every arm attachable rotates with the head, which only looks good with maybe a shoulderpad but nothing else.
And don't get me started on draw order. I hate how we can't directly change the draw order of actors. If I want a BG hand that actually stays in the BG I should be able to do it. If I want a sprite for hair to appear behind the head/torso I should be able to do so without hacky lua tricks. Granted most of my problems are when I'm working with a larger and thus more detailed actor, but regardless I feel the current system is very limiting.
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CrazyMLC
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:20 am Posts: 4772 Location: Good news everyone!
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
If Data did implement it there should be an option to choose which limb type to use, because they each have their own strengths and weaknesses. To put it simply, whole limbs mean more artistic opportunity, but segmented limbs mean simpler coding and attachable use.
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:22 am |
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tons0phun
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:18 pm Posts: 131 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
I think it's been mentioned before, but I'd like to see grenades be implemented such that their ammo capacity was matched with the guns. So to say, equipping one grenade would let you throw an unlimited amount of them. Otherwise there's not a lot of incentive to bring them along with your troops.
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:49 pm |
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Natti
Data Realms Elite
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:05 am Posts: 3878
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
tons0phun wrote: I think it's been mentioned before, but I'd like to see grenades be implemented such that their ammo capacity was matched with the guns. So to say, equipping one grenade would let you throw an unlimited amount of them. Otherwise there's not a lot of incentive to bring them along with your troops. Then they'd need a recharge time.
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:09 pm |
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TorrentHKU
Loose Canon
Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:07 pm Posts: 2992 Location: --------------->
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
Then they'd be guns.
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:39 pm |
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Geti
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:57 am Posts: 4886 Location: some compy
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
So have "grenade belt" as a gun with X grenades on it (ideally it would be a new weapon class that had the same variable throw), otherwise just give them 4-5 grenades for clearing out bunkers when you need them. the variable lob is a blessing when you get it.
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:13 pm |
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Natti
Data Realms Elite
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:05 am Posts: 3878
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
Methinks that grenades should either
A: More effective.
or B: Infinite with recharge time.
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:17 pm |
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alphagamer774
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:06 am Posts: 1294 Location: Comox, BC, Canada
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
I vote B
And we need some Domination, with big map + nodes/bunkers/whatever to capture and extend your drop range.
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Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:28 am |
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DSMK2
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:19 am Posts: 1119
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
For some reason grenades still explode in your hands even if "activatesWhenReleased = 1". Should be fixed.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:30 am |
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Nocifer
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:38 pm Posts: 447 Location: The Ninth Circle
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
Pardon my lateness to the topic and quasi-necro, but I agree wholeheartedly on the front of limb animations. I also agree with CrazyMLC's suggestion of different types of limb animations; if possible, have the segmented limbs for simpler spriting, and the current animation system for artistic expression. Now, this would be the ideal, but I don't know how difficult it would be to implement a multiple-type animation system, and wasn't going to suggest it myself until Crazy did. Just out of curiosity, how likely/viable would such a system be for upcoming builds? Any ideas?
Also, on a whim, I created a proof-of-concept piston-limbed dummy. Very poorly sprited, and the eye I tried to give him also looks like crap. Nevertheless, it raises the question of whether the current animation system is worth keeping for its potential, considering that the vast majority of mods use bipedal sprites with knees and ankles in a closely humanoid arrangement.
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File comment: Because everyone wants a crash test dummy with stick-thin piston limbs and a bizarre and ugly eye. Piston cyclops, anyone?
PistonDummy.7z [1015.01 KiB]
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:09 am |
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lafe
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:33 pm Posts: 718
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
Will it be possible to access some basic transparency values for MO's? If not with ini modding, at least with lua? There must be some basic transparency support in the engine, just look at the bunker placer mode, note that the bunker bits you place are semitransparent.
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Grif
REAL AMERICAN HERO
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
Holy ♥♥♥♥ for the umpteenth time people this IS NOT a thread for new engine features or new gameplay features or new features of any kind.
It is a thread for CONTENT TWEAKS.
That is why the title of the thread is CONTENT TWEAKS.
As in, SMALL CHANGES (tweaks!) that are made to the base game data (content!)
READING COMPREHENSION, FOLKS.
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Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:17 am |
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Nocifer
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:38 pm Posts: 447 Location: The Ninth Circle
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
Pardon me, but I thought the last couple suggestions were just suggestions for content tweaks. Lafe's was a suggestion for making a feature that appears to be included already available to the common modder, and the previous suggestion would, I would think, be relatively simple to implement. At the very least, we were merely making it clear that the current system of animations is sufficient. However, correct me where and if I am wrong.
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:21 am |
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Contrary
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:50 pm Posts: 2175 Location: Neverwhere
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
hey guys i think data shud implment sum sorta fetur were u can play wit ur frends arond teh world usin the internets
In any case does it really matter what people are talking about anymore? I think we've pretty much got every balance issue. Less reload time, Nailer Pistol is OP, Ronin are underpowered...
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:03 am |
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Roadkill
Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:55 pm Posts: 26
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Re: CONTENT TWEAK THREAD
I think one of the big problems for me is how slow the game is updated, even the small updates are few and far between. So my suggestion for new content is ' give us an update every month'
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