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William98
Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:25 am Posts: 17
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
Bump User was warned for this post (unnecessary and fruitless necro) -DuhEdit: Oh, sorry! Edit: Wait a second! Fruitless?
Last edited by William98 on Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:08 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:39 am |
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8-Bit
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:57 pm Posts: 67 Location: They've found us! run!
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
PhantomAGN wrote: ...we should certainly have regenerating actors. Oh wait, we do. Cher. She might never die.
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Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:29 pm |
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scottsman
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:31 am Posts: 30
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
I am aware that we are already taking verly small steps in this direction. I know of an expeiriment where they took some brain cells from a rat and used that to control a remote body, so theoreticly, it seems possible that we could use the human brain in place. This also matches perfectly with the game when you think about it, as this experiment shows the subject can control a remote body.
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Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:31 pm |
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Jon
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:34 pm Posts: 143
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
Well, it's like taking prosthetic arms and legs (there are already pretty realistic prosthetics) and taking them a little further. De-braining (don't know what to call it) may not be so far off.
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Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:40 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
Hook up a brain to a machine that disables the nerves and nurtures the brain, then remove the body, and then make a jar that keeps it alive.
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Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:34 pm |
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Zartyzzo
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:14 pm Posts: 10
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
I thought the idea was that you transfered your conciousness to another artificial brain? Or do they actually remove the brain from the body? In the intro you can see a guy with a machine attached to his head and it looks like he is controlling the mechanical arms, with the artificial brain, with his own brain.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:48 pm |
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TheKebbit
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:24 pm Posts: 3939 Location: NORTH
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
No, they extract the brain. What'd you think was in the jars, hmm? Jello?
EDIT: Wait, maybe they did transfer consciousness to an artificial brain like you said. I still think they extracted it, because a brain would be hard to make.
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:41 pm |
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Dre@m
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 29
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
TheKebbit wrote: No, they extract the brain. What'd you think was in the jars, hmm? Jello?
EDIT: Wait, maybe they did transfer consciousness to an artificial brain like you said. I still think they extracted it, because a brain would be hard to make. My understand of this is that the brain is hooked up to some mechanical transmitting device which overrides the uh... "empty" brain of another body. If you've seen the movie Avatar, it's like that except instead of a person climbing into a machine, it's just a brain hooked up directly to a machine. It's possible to hook up artificial limbs to our nervous system, but they're built unique to the nervous system. There was a man who had a hand which could "feel" (although, the concious didn't feel it in the right place because of perception of where the nerves are). He could control the hand as he would his normal hand. There are also devices (like that shown in the intro with the man wearing a headset looking at a monitor) being developed already. I think they had a prototype model that was running with Second Life.
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Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:55 pm |
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scottsman
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:31 am Posts: 30
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
I have been thinking about this for a while, and I think for some things, they would need to hookup limbs, eyes, ears, and god knows what else after they transfer the brain, since it would be hard to test while you were still human, unless you like having you flesh opened up. Plugs hooked up to your nervice system could trigger other things befor they hook up the hardware, as a way to test things. for a while they may have to keep your original ears so you could understand their instructions for the tests. Then again, this is in know way based in hard science, because I'm not that dedicated to the subject.
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:08 am |
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PhantomAGN
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 610 Location: Deep below The Map of Mars
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
A) You've dug up a very old thread B) The human mind has already been shown to adapt to new sensors, by the principal or neural nets. (look up the "tongue camera" - or something like that)
C) I am certain now that removing the brain itself is futile; it would be a far better advance and less wasteful to "simply" move the mind. I posit that it would be possible by gradually adding hardware until the wetware has transferred all new information to it, and may simply be detached. I do not really want to write an essay on this just now though, I have too many papers for my courses as is.
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:34 am |
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Flammablezombie
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:12 pm Posts: 1525 Location: In between your sister's legs, showing her how to use a... PS3 controller!
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
Yes, but then all we could do is create a society of robots that can only ask "What would my mind's previous owner do...?" and react to each other accordingly. Moving the physical brain = immortality. Moving the data FROM it = one vegetable and one fake sentient robot.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:20 pm |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
Flammablezombie wrote: Moving the data FROM it = one vegetable and one fake sentient robot. wat. The mind is the data. I don't suppose you consider yourself fake sentient?
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:27 pm |
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PhantomAGN
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 610 Location: Deep below The Map of Mars
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Re: Seperating the brain from the body
Flammablezombie wrote: Moving the physical brain = immortality. No, your cells will certainly die. Not only is there a limit to duplication, but your brain (and mine, and every human's) is terrifically inefficient at what it does. Despite that being what's presented in CC, it's nothing like the "best solution."
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:46 pm |
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