hey bro are those nostalgia goggles weighing down your head because they are ♥♥♥♥ massive

I like how his whole post is structured like he was going to pick apart arguments one sentence at a time but then I read it and it turns out all he's doing is covering his ears and going NANANANA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

He is just one of those kids who think it is cool to ignore new media in light of older classics.

Classics are cool bro but they are the foundation upon which new franchises are created and born.

Also, if they just cloned the original Fallouts, you would be complaining about it being a rehash. You are just one of those unsatisfiable gamers that the various game publishers dont even bother marketing to.

Also u mad cuz r pcs r better then urs??

I love Fallout 3, I love Fallout 2. I just imagine them as completely different games, and don't see why this argument is continuing, lets all talk about how awesome this looks.

I'm gonna buy the hell outta this game.

I never got why people clung to classics like that. I mean, there's a ♥♥♥♥ reason why they're classics and not currents. They suck as compared to new games. Super Mario is still a ♥♥♥♥♥ awesome game, but it doesn't even compare to Half-Life 2, for instance. You have to remember the lensing effect nostalgia has.
I, personally, ♥♥♥♥ hate Fallout 3. Can't play it, can't stand it, etc. But I hate it for the ♥♥♥♥ that it has that makes it suck, not because it's not a direct clone of a game that very few people play anymore. God forbid people try to innovate.
I swear, gamers are the most finicky bunch. One minute they're screaming because classics get changed next they ♥♥♥♥♥ because games are cookie cutter and don't do anything new.

Does the retard understand that New Vegas is being developed by Obsidian, a company comprised of many former Black Isle employees who have shown they can make some damn fine games with Kotor 2 and such?

No, they aren't aware.

Fallout 3, a great game, would not have come about without fallout 1 & 2.

Half-life 2, a great game, would not have come about without Half life, In fact, COUNTERSTRIKE wouldn't have happened without half-life 1.

World of warcraft, one of the biggest profits activision/blizzard HAS, wouldn't have happened if not for 'Warcraft: Humans and orks', Warcraft: humans and orks, would not have happened if Games workshop didn't drop out of hiring them to make a Warhammer game.

on that note, Diablo 2 from diablo, Starcraft 2 from starcraft from WC2, blizzard is out of the way.

metal gear solid 4, a great movie, wouldn't have come about without Metal Gear on the NES.
Great games like Rock band, and Guitar hero, would have never gotten off the ground if not for the popularity of games like DDR, Beatmania, and Guitar freaks.
Bio shock ---> system shock
Halo 1 2 & 3 > Marathon
Smash bros. > mario, F-Zero, pokemon, LoZ, Fire emblem, Metroid, kid icarus, kirby, etc

AND NONE OF IT WITHOUT PONG!

Here's the thing.

your both fanboys. your drooling over the latest and shiniest of the Fallout series and He's a fanboy of the Older strategy RPGs, fallout 1&2, and probably Planescape: Torment.


And while yes, I agree that his bitching is unwarranted, not a single one of us on this forum has the right to make fun of his nostalgia goggles, since we're on a fan-forum, of a game, that's considered an indi RETRO game. Cortex command is a new-ish game thats practically designed to shove nostalgia goggles on you.


TL:DR
Don't dis the new and shiny games, they are better than your 'fun' but old "it makes the first diablo look like it has amazing graphics" game. Nothing with graphics like that can be fun anymore.

Well yeah then you have this thing called game concepts, which gets dug up now and then.

you mean like a fully open ended physics sandbox where users can create lua scripted content for every aspect of gameplay? thats a good concept that gets kicked around alot... but that one never seems to get very far off the ground, something about never having a large enough fanbase to warrant serious development time or thought.

Thanks, i've never been complemented before in my life. You've changed everything

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Miles, ur dum, I'm not drooling over any of them.

They were all fun to one degree or another. I'm not fapping to Fallout. It's not even my favorite franchist.

christ I already miss the days when miles wasn't here

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miles you had a good point then you sort of ♥♥♥♥ it into the ground
relentless

Sorry to necro this but i cant believe people got trolled in this thread

Anyways if anyone was actually ever paying attention this is all being done in Obsidian studio, where Chris Avellone works. He worked on quite a bit of the Black Isle games including basically writing the entire novel that is Planescape Torment. The original series was full of adolescent jokes and sarcasm and yet somehow FO3 seemed to fail at the most fundamental of writing stereotypes when trying to copy this sense of humor, somewhat to do with the inclusion of unenthusiastic voice actors and the 10 WORDS AT MOST ON THE SCREEN

However I'm not looking forward to a supermutant in a wig. And I don't know exactly how a vehicle is going to work in the gamebryo engine or whatever the hell, horses weren't the most reliable rides.


Also orphanim I read your post about "CLASSICS ARENT CURRENTS FOR A REASON"

Yeah it's called "we call ♥♥♥♥ classic because its more than a decade old" One example although a retarded example: Rocky Horror Picture Show is a classic amongst musical fans, and even though Repo: Genetic Opera is more contemporary and considered the "cool thing" to be interested in for musical fans, it in fact does not have as large of a fanbase as Rocky Horror Picture Show. Which is a Classic. Which is more popular than the Current.

This is where you can stop reading because now I rant about FO series.



And I like FO1 and FO2 because they give me what I want, a potentially challenging game with some C&C to throw me off every now and then. I tried to play FO3 with a large amount of mods, I even learned about mod merging and all this ♥♥♥♥, I basically have WMK + FWE + FWE-supported Tent + some other mods I can't even remember, got a merger mod on the end of the list, and yet I can't bring myself to play the game but I don't want to uninstall it because I already invested my time trying to make it better. And yet I haven't played it in a month. Meanwhile I play Call of Pripyat far more often because it gives me challenging gameplay without the fluff of RPG mechanics. Yet I like FO1 and FO2, games notorious for their reliance on RPG mechanics.

I don't know, maybe Bethesda just sucks at making a game that can keep MY attention. I could only put 60 hours into Morrowind before I just told everything to ♥♥♥♥ off and started reading books. I found that the lore of Morrowind was more impressive than the rest of the game.

So I'm really hoping that somehow Obsidian can improve the engine, definitely improve the combat (but I doubt it, coding isn't quite their forte) to make it more dynamic, actually make moving targets hard to hit, I know they will improve the dialogue, Chris is very self-conscious about his own writing and will redraft it many times to get it right (well, right in his but its the effort that counts), and people in RPGcodex recently tried to troll each other saying caesar's legion was a lame name when they fail to realize IT TAKES PLACE IN LAS VEGAS WHERE CAESARS PALACE CASINO IS I can stand criticism but this is ridiculous, so. Heres to a coin toss to see if Obsidian can redirect the FO franchise in a direction everyone can enjoy.