Hi Internet.

As the title suggests, I don't like iTunes any more. I mean, we had some times. Remembering how fast the podcast directory grew up brings a tear to my spectacled eye, but recently it has turned on me, making Firefox crash and generally scarfing out all my memory. It's time for a change. I looked to Songbird but since it's growing increasingly likely that I'll drop umpteen-hundred dollars on an iPhone next week, I need something that will play nice with it. (One of the fancy ones, the 3GS or whatever)

I'm open to other suggestions, but a thought has just occurred. Is there anyone out there successfully using an iPhone with Winamp? I've been looking at the documentation and it looks like a bit of voodoo and planetary-alignment is necessary, and I'm hoping for automatic syncing.


Cheers,
- The-Masses

I don't know much about the advantages and disadvantages of different music players, but I know you can load windows media player onto your IPhone if you jailbreak it, and you might be able to download a nice version designed for IPhones.

there are quite a lot of open source music players that will take like 100k of memory and can sync to ipods/iphones. i think the default ubuntu one, rhythmbox or whatever it was called could do it. no podcasts though.

Never successfully made it work with Winamp, though I have heard about plugin related things.
Instead, try DoubleTwist. It plays nice with all kind of devices, and I am fairly certain that I used it with an iPod already.
All I gotta add to this discussion really, but I hope it helps you.

iTunes on windows has never felt done to me, when compared to the Mac version.
On my macbook, iTunes never devours my memory in a way that I cannot use a million other things at once, and my library is massive.
Though I suppose having four gigabytes of ram helps.

Apple has little incentive to make iTunes work well on Windows, makes sense they would half-ass it.

I will never let this evil program contaminate my computer.
It's massively inefficient, the layout is bogus, and worst of all: IT ENCOURAGES LOW MUSIC QUALITY.
You download music, legally, and get it at a worse quality than if you downloaded it ILLEGALLY.
So everyone has really low bitrate mp3s instead of the beautiful sounds of CDs.

A good person uses Explorer to organise their music and winamp to play it.

Quite the contrary, I have three friends that have warmed up to apple's machines as a result of using iTunes and more importantly, iPods and iPhones.
Looking at the statistics, it's likely that those are the greatest factors adding to the expansion of Apple's user share. That and the sexy laptops, those helped a lot.

As for low quality, are you perhaps the MosterCable sort of person, Exalion?
I actually do not personally know anyone who buys music, though I also got none of my 30GB illegally.

But the point Duh was making is that since (for the vast majority of people) an iPod = iTunes, and since the vast majority of people also think mp3 player = iPod, they would tend towards a "better" itunes experience, which they (in a conspiracy theorist's mind) only put on the OSX itunes, rather than fully updating the windows version.

Giving doubleTwist a shot. Once I booted it up and pointed it in the right direction it automatically started importing all of my iTunes songs, and I've seen a button to auto-read and create matching playlists, which I need since I've got my music organised to an insane degree and don't really fancy a huge effort to get everything back the way it was.

Thanks, Internet!


- The-Masses