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			| TorrentHKU Loose Canon 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverRed Team FTW. 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:20 pm | 
					
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			| ProjektTHOR Banned 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverDuh102 wrote: ProjektTHOR wrote: You could also try doing a cronjob that hashes the minefiles and disposes of identical backups.I'll take the lazy way out: Hash the current and last backups and backup if need be. I'm not entirely sure how much work eliminating old backups would entail, and I don't feel like doing so. Besides, currently both backup repositories I keep take up only 100meg of a 120gig drive, I'm not worried about them. Well, I was thinking overhead in the form of "omg I have over 9000 backups to check for integrity."  Cron a CRC is probably the best idea.
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:37 pm | 
					
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			| dragonxp 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverHyperkultra wrote: Red Team FTW.YES, they will win cause they are a bunch of these guys!,     FOOTBALL PLAYERS Also, red is better then purple.
 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:42 pm | 
					
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			| TorrentHKU Loose Canon 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverFottball sucks, Spleef is the only true Man's sport. 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:43 pm | 
					
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			| dragonxp 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverTrue, but red would still win.Besides, it the first side THOR built.
 
 EDIT: since this doesn't deserve new post,
 
 Duh, i dont think i knows how to fix that.
 
 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:45 pm | 
					
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			| Duh102 happy carebear mom 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverHm, I have just discovered that even if nothing goes on in the server, md5 hash changes. Perhaps because the server saves the file and the timestamp changes?Advise: How do I fix this? Would a file size check be enough?
 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:46 pm | 
					
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			| weasel 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverDuh102 wrote: Hm, I have just discovered that even if nothing goes on in the server, md5 hash changes. Perhaps because the server saves the file and the timestamp changes?Advise: How do I fix this? Would a file size check be enough?
Yeah the server auto-saves the file every so often (5-15 minutes or so). Filesize might work but why don't you just do a backup every hour for.. 72 hours, and delete anything older than 72?
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:51 pm | 
					
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			| Duh102 happy carebear mom 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverweasel wrote: Yeah the server auto-saves the file every so often (5-15 minutes or so).
 Filesize might work but why don't you just do a backup every hour for.. 72 hours, and delete anything older than 72?
Every minute actually. I suppose I could cap the backups, but I really do want this backup scheme, it would cut down a lot on useless backups made during the middle of they day when no one is on. I'll try out filesize and see what it produces. If it works, then I'll go with that until a better option comes my way.
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:55 pm | 
					
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			| dragonxp 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverMost effective, however least conveinient, would be doing it manually.
 Unless, it's the timing of the backups.
 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:57 pm | 
					
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			| Duh102 happy carebear mom 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverdragonxp wrote: Most effective, however least conveinient, would be doing it manually.I'm not going to sit at my computer and copy the server file every 10 minutes, dragon    0 players online could work too. Perhaps a combination of both would be best.
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:00 pm | 
					
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			| dragonxp 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverMaybe, but i got a weak feeling it has something to do with map size...
 Oh and i realized that me and wiffles were playing spleef up on skytower xD.
 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:03 pm | 
					
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			| Duh102 happy carebear mom 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverWell that failed miserably. Filesize apparently changes as well. I'll just go with players online then. 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:06 pm | 
					
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			| ProjektTHOR Banned 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverIf you use a hash function on the map files you can check them for differences.  if has1 != hash2, backup.  else skip until next cycle. 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:12 pm | 
					
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			| weasel 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverwow, every minute? That's probably the source of the every-minute lag-spike I get. Any chance of drawing that out a bit?
 If the filesizes are reasonably small, the 72-hour thing will work magically delicious
 
 ALSO: @PROJECTthor: Your arena is awesome I can't wait to play
 
 
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			| Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:13 pm | 
					
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			| ProjektTHOR Banned 
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   |   Re: Duh102's Minecraft serverIn lieu of Duh's backup system, I think memorable backup numbers should be commemorated.  For example, Backup 1776.  The Daratealmian Revolution. 
 
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