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I would have a pistol with one shot just in case I get surronded


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Yeah, yeah Jack.

I'd like to suggest another weapon:
Rapier? You know, stab it in the eye and wiggle it 'round a little.


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Well, actually, the Japanese suicide charges of WW2 were surprisingly effective once they reached enemy lines, and those troopers had rifles to block the katanas with. Rifles are harder than bone, and the katans didn't get stuck, is my point. In the end, though, I think all you'd really need would be a suit of armor. It can be made out of whatever the hell you like, as long as it's at least a strong plastic, and the zombies will never bite through it. Fiberglass would be a good option, with padding and crap. You'll most likely get tired quickly, but, y'know, invincible. Then you can pick up a scythe or whatever the hell you want. Emphasis on the scythe if you make the helmet's face in the shape of a skull and throw Ben's black cloak over it.

Of my god. Greatest idea ever right there. Then I could just go around reaping zombies with no fear for my safety.
Also, 411, I own several broadswords, a lance, a katana, some battleaxes, etc.


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Your vast collection is sprouting doubt in my mind.


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And obviously they are all legit and will work for months of nonstop zombieslaying. Also suit of armor is a really bad idea, sure they won't be able to bite you but you'll be slow enough for them to surround, and ultimately crush/suffocate you under their mass.


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Metal Meltdown wrote:
Well, actually, the Japanese suicide charges of WW2 were surprisingly effective once they reached enemy lines, and those troopers had rifles to block the katanas with. Rifles are harder than bone, and the katans didn't get stuck, is my point. In the end, though, I think all you'd really need would be a suit of armor. It can be made out of whatever the hell you like, as long as it's at least a strong plastic, and the zombies will never bite through it. Fiberglass would be a good option, with padding and crap. You'll most likely get tired quickly, but, y'know, invincible. Then you can pick up a scythe or whatever the hell you want. Emphasis on the scythe if you make the helmet's face in the shape of a skull and throw Ben's black cloak over it.


Someone four feet away from you is a lot harder to hit with a five foot long gun, sure.

That doesn't mean that they cut through the ♥♥♥♥ guns. Lift up an M1 Garand sometime. 9.5 pounds, solid steel interior, heavy wood furniture. Swords did not cut through them; soldiers simply were not trained to "block" sword strikes with guns. Jesus, a homicidal maniac runs up to your defensive line and starts brandishing a katana, what's your first thought going to be? Oh ♥♥♥♥ or OH I BETTER BLOCK THIS GUY'S ATTACKS

the collective dumb pervasive in the modern mind regarding the lethality of "melee" weapons vs firearms is laughable

spoilers: if guns weren't effective we would have never started using them in the first place


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Where the bloody hell did I say that the katanas were used to cut through the weapons? Jesus Christ, I know you think I'm stupid, but that's downright retarded. My point was that the blades wouldn't get stuck in bone, despite not cutting it.


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411570N3 wrote:
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katana [...] readily available
What? Where do you live for that to be true?


Brazil. Oriental neighborhood. Thirty dollars, and you've got a katana. With a shortsword as a bonus, if you find a shop with one of those "buy one, get one free" sales. If that sounds too expensive, you can buy tonfas or sets of shuriken for ten bucks. All 100% legit, hand-made with sharp steel by wage slaves on southern China. If you're willing to spend a little more money, you can also get hunting crossbows, if you go to the right shops.

And Grif, katanas are sharp enough to cut through bulltes fired at them. Melee wins again. Not to mention that it would be kind of hard to find bullets sice all of the gun factory workers would probably already have been zombified. I rest my case.


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Areku wrote:
katanas are sharp enough to cut through bulltes fired at them

Not exactly a considerable achievement, considering that no human alive could do that on purpose and that lead (especially really ♥♥♥♥ hot lead) is malleable. Though I still call BS on it. Also, real, hand-forged traditional katanas are a hell of a lot more expensive than what you'd find in this so-called Oriental Neighborhood.


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Areku wrote:
411570N3 wrote:
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katana [...] readily available
What? Where do you live for that to be true?


Brazil. Oriental neighborhood. Thirty dollars, and you've got a katana. With a shortsword as a bonus, if you find a shop with one of those "buy one, get one free" sales. If that sounds too expensive, you can buy tonfas or sets of shuriken for ten bucks. All 100% legit, hand-made with sharp steel by wage slaves on southern China. If you're willing to spend a little more money, you can also get hunting crossbows, if you go to the right shops.

And Grif, katanas are sharp enough to cut through bulltes fired at them. Melee wins again. Not to mention that it would be kind of hard to find bullets sice all of the gun factory workers would probably already have been zombified. I rest my case.


I really hope you're not serious. No, those swords / shurikens and ♥♥♥♥ are not legit. No, your sword would break if you tried to cut bullets.
That aside, yes, carrying a melee weapon would be a good idea, but you'd be better off with something spiked and heavy. Just heavy is good too. Also ammo could be found around if you manage to stockpile up a decent amount, you'll make it through until you find more. People who have guns usually have ammo too.

Metal Meltdown, wood is not harder than bone. But wood can be cut with axes, and so can bone. A blade WILL get stuck if you manage to swing it hard enough.


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Wood no, steel yes.


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And it CAN get stuck in wood.


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They can also NOT get stuck in wood-surrounded steel, which was the whole point of the WW2 reference. It all depends on the angle and strength of the strike.


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Kallemort wrote:
I really hope you're not serious. No, those swords / shurikens and ♥♥♥♥ are not legit. No, your sword would break if you tried to cut bullets.



Maybe not handmade by secret artisans deep in the mountains, but functional anyway. After all, the mob wouldn't buy such weapons unless they were good. And about the price, did you read what I wrote about chinese wage slaves? I don't know how exactly those swords and stuff enter the country, but I'm pretty sure it's not through the customs office.

And oh yes, katanas can cut bullets in half. Allow me to present exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNiX_l-HEGM. Sure thing, it's just a handgun, and you would have to be Dafred to be strong enough to hold the sword, but it could work if you were very, very lucky.


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Anybody who claims to be able to hold a sword (or for Deity's sake swing it) in the exact path of a bullet is either superman or incredibly confused. You are trying to position a cutting surface that cannot be larger than 2mm at the correct angle into the trajectory of a projectile that would be about .35in diameter in the average situation, while said projectile was traveling in excess of 500mph, all done as fast as you can react, approximately .2 seconds (if you're good and can figure out the trajectory of a bullet from just the sound in .2 seconds) after you hear the sound of the shot.
Does this not sound the least bit implausible?!


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