call me a cynical user but your all friendly status is quickly turning to something completely different...
ok i agree than remaking the forums is indeed a pretty cool idea but remaking the forums to some kind of realm ruled secretly by you is hardly a good change.
dont get me wrong but usually when somebody gets a lot of power over others tends to act arrogant/ignore the current situation (see the chill rule).
the users of this forum are in the majority bored of the old first mod which is actually another bulletsprayer.
for example see how the community reacted on this first mod or on this first mod.good mods with new ideas/interesting concept get good reactions and level headed comments.now look at this or this the first one was bullet sprayer the second just a rip from an older mod.they got flamed.realy badly.with harsh posts.this is happening become so may good mods are already present than the quality control is now
pretty high
so what i want to say is than even if you delete the forums and rearrange them a million times unless you manage to make the users more tolerant to bad mods they will keep flaming them.
so your choices are to either ban half the community to achieve sheep like tolerance or to make new rules/new forum layout or to do nothing (not a good idea) OR maybe make the new rules/forum but somehow teach the community how to react correctly on bad/mediorate mods and make some kind of a wonder without abusing your powers.

So you're like what level, James level?

If you know what you're doing and can take a joke, have fun I endorse you. Don't feed trolls ect. but I hope you know that.

I'd also help you if you need it, I know most dudes here.

So the moderator doesn't read and ignores a wall of excelent points.










I have quoted these things to make a pretext to my post.

Weasel, He is not criticizing what will happen, he is criticizing your plan, which you will defend. what he has is your idea, and what your idea is, he, and even I find wrong. There is a colossal difference, between moderating, and forcing ideology. You have largely ignored the claims of virtually every active poster on these forums, and stuck with your plan, which everyone is telling you will fail.

people who hate eachother with a passion, are in agreement that this is a bad idea. your bad ideas have in fact unified this community, unfortunately for you, it seems to be unified against you, not with you.



you can not force people to always be nice to each other, especially in a mod making community that is obsessed with quality. in order to promote improvement you MUST criticize every error and flaw, until only what is good remains. everyone here is ♥♥♥♥ retarded and will not learn from being nice about everything.

The system we have works, the only thing that doesn't work is the way bans are handled. warnings are almost never given for thread related content, they simply let it build, and then ban everyone who crosses a seemingly invisible line, without notice. the only warning anyone gets of what can get them banned is when a thread gets snipped, which does not happen in an overly-active thread. the precedence that this sets is that being active is bad, conversing is bad, take any discussions elsewhere, even if it is relevant.

In other words, the only improvements to this community you could possibly do is re-arrange some forums, add buttons, and change the way bans are handled, and really only the banning issue is within your power. unfortunately from what I have seen, you would rather ban with less of a warning. with you as a moderator I feel like I will see a mod, reply, and say the sprites suck because of this reason, fix this in this way. and 5 minutes later my post is deleted and i'd be banned. like I said, this entire board is retarded, and full of people you have to pound the point into there skulls with a damn sledge hammer. harshness is required in some situations. the ONLY time I approve of your methods is to resolve grudge-matches between people, which is rare, unfortunately, noone does a thing about them so we still have them from, oh i dunno, the start of this community. and the resolution to this is not bans.


and all this said, I have run out of useful things to say in this regard.

It is not you that is the problem, it is your personal, chosen method which absolutely noone here is in support of. given that that is the ONLY thing you have brought to these forums, you had best change. and if you ban all of your critics, theres only going to be moderators left and you will have failed, and then we'd have a community run, un-official forum elsewhere. now that I think of it, such a thing may already exist.



also in a side note, in one of your earlier posts you mentioned not listening to anyone with less than a 5000 post count. guess what, I dont think anyone on DRL has a post count that high. it helps to know what your walking into.

Lol, Miles.
Its 4000 and it was a joke.

yeah well, considering the things this guy has been saying, I cant tell what is and isn't a joke.

Just to nitpick, Grif has the highest postcount of anyone, and it's only just below 4000. Congrats on that small wonder BTW Grif.

Wtf, how did I get ninja'd by 2 people and yet, nothing said a thing about it.

You're assuming he cares about keeping "everyone" around. No, "everyone" is the problem. Rebuilding this community from the ground up is exactly the right idea. The fact that you're all so concerned about the future of the community demonstrates the problem nicely -- you care more about your stake in the community than about the game. That makes you a liability, even without the racism, homophobia, and eagerness to maul newbs for cred. Why would Data want you around?

Us? Not us. Zalo. Abdul. Grif. LFoW. Kyred. Piipu. Darlos. (My sincerest apologies to anyone I left out, like Geti and bubs, I was in a hurry) Those are the people that should be kept at all costs. Also, if you want to drag profits into this, what do you think excellent mods + time limit imposed by the demo do? Now ask yourself the same question, but replace "excellent mods" with "bullet hoses". We want new members. What we don't want are idiots who are incapable of taking criticism, and/or reading the rules.

How about we stop the flame war while we are ahead, people.

weasel, I'm agreeing with Thor's posts several pages back, I guarantee this will go terribly unless it's openly discussed and decided with consideration of the forum's desires, because otherwise the main effect any of your large changes will have is pissing off mostly everyone. That's bad for business, and very unchill.

For example, Thorcalypse was a massive pain in the ass and the idiotically opaque administration didn't allow talking about it, and that was a cluster ♥♥♥♥ on all accounts. Just a nonproductive pain in the ass for everyone. It did not help anything.

If you're going to purge what you, Data, or the DRLFF administration in general don't approve of, leave everything else possible standing, and preferably, not on fire.

what they dont want is people being mean for any F-ing reason, which being mean on occasion is a damn requirement of any decent modding community.

Hey Miles, you can say ♥♥♥♥ on the internet. Also, purging the community is unnecessary. Communities that call them selves "Friendly and Fun" are boring, and populated by idiots. Data Realms should never be like that, because when you accept one idiot the cancer spreads and soon it's a group of ten idiots, then twenty, and pretty soon the entire community is stupid and pointless and mean comments immediately get you branded as a troll or a bully. The group of people who made things fun eventually leave for better things.

I vote that in the event that massive changes for the worse occur that we all move to a different forum. its not the web-site that matters, its the people posting.

I... I think I'm going to cry...


You might think this new forum would replace the old, but really all it would do is cause a rift between an official community and an unofficial community, which would be weird and prone to drama.

Also, I'd like it if I only had to post a mod in one place.

We all love you Darlos <3

I think a good indication of how serious of a deal this is is the fact that Miles agreed with Thor.