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 Censorship of baby mod - depriving the fans? 
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Post Censorship of baby mod - depriving the fans?
I can understand the need to lock distasteful mods. A mod which referenced the holocaust, for instance, would definitely be in bad enough taste to warrant deletion. This is an extreme, however, and one can definitely imagine that there are things more appropriate than a holocaust mod which should still not be allowed on this site. No doubt, this is an incredibly blurry line to draw, but there must be some universal rules to dictate what is and isn't appropriate in Cortex Command.

I think that just about anyone on this forum would agree that if a mod is directly inspired by preexisting CC concept, it should be in the clear. Surely, if the developers of Cortex Command think that something is appropriate enough to consider for the vanilla game, it must be in at least appropriate enough to consider acceptable as third party content.

And what's this all have to do with the baby mod? See for yourself:

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As you can see, babies are indeed part of the Cortex Command world. To deprive this community of my mod is to deprive it of the full game experience.
That, I say, is inappropriate.


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Look, Toast: Your mod is fun, I won't deny it. But there's a difference between the baby in the intro, which is protected by his/her/its mother/big sister, and a baby cannon. Chances are that the one in the intro won't be used as a grenade or cannon fodder.


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Wait, the baby mod thread got deleted? Who by? I bet it was that weasel guy. :sad:


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Metal Meltdown"Chances are that the one in the intro won't be used as a grenade or cannon fodder.[/quote]

That is a very subjective interpretation. Do you have Data's personal diary? Nooooooope!

[quote="Hyperkultra wrote:
Wait, the baby mod thread got deleted? Who by? I bet it was that weasel guy. :sad:


Nope. This was awhile ago. I actually do know who it was, but I don't think it would be appropriate to say.


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Read the forum rules. I mean really, the colors are right there, it's no secret. Also, if you read the topic, it wasn't just one mod's opinion, it was the "higher ups" collectively.


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It was deleted because someone important (my guess is an Admin) noticed it and was offended. But there is a difference between that which is classified as freedom of speech, and using a picture which was originally made to bring a sense of actual conflict, anarchy, genocide, death and war as a justification for the release of a mod which is made purely for fun. I am not attacking the mod here. I am attacking Rawtoast's argument.
[edit] Ninja'd by Duh. But my point still stands, Toast.


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It was a pretty general consensus among a couple of mods as I understand it. Who did it isn't really that important, though.


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*Extends index finger*
TROLL!
On a side note, I may not know Data's diary, but I somehow doubt the baby would have been protected if they intended to use it as a weapon. When are we getting that baby assault scene, btw?


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I personally had nothing against the mod. I actually thought it was quite funny, even if I didn't download it. I disagreed with the decision to delete it. But, what is done is done. And until we can get someone to come down here and allow the mod then I guess my hands are tied


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Metal Meltdown wrote:
On a side note, I may not know Data's diary, but I somehow doubt the baby would have been protected if they intended to use it as a weapon. When are we getting that baby assault scene, btw?


So maybe the giblimit would be increased. Are you attacking my modding abilities now? That's low. In any case, there are a number of reasons the fan-made whitebot actors aren't going to be in the final game, or the fan-made robopopes, or the fan-made coalition heavy turrets. One of these is quality. My mod is victim of this condition just like any other.

I apologize if my modding abilities aren't good enough to perfectly emulate finalized vanilla content.


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I personally had nothing against the mod. I actually thought it was quite funny, even if I didn't download it. I disagreed with the decision to delete it. But, what is done is done. And until we can get someone to come down here and allow the mod then I guess my hands are tied


Oh of course, but I feel like it's still worth discussing, if only for the benefit of future reference.


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Rawtoast wrote:
So maybe the giblimit would be increased. Are you attacking my modding abilities now? That's low. In any case, there are a number of reasons the fan-made whitebot actors aren't going to be in the final game, or the fan-made robopopes, or the fan-made coalition heavy turrets. One of these is quality. My mod is victim of this condition just like any other.

I apologize if my modding abilities aren't good enough to perfectly emulate finalized vanilla content.

Your abilities suck! May Mjolnir smite you! Also, while you might suck, I still want that baby scene!


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Post Re: Censorship of baby mod - depriving the fans?
Oh no! Now you can't throw babies at people!

It's hardly an essential feature is it? You're not really that deprived.


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metal chao wrote:
Oh no! Now you can't throw babies at people!

It's hardly an essential feature is it? You're not really that deprived.


I believe that the above statement stems from a misunderstanding. I never made anything which allowed the player to throw babies - the mod was about shooting babies at the enemy from the very start.

See the difference? Much more understandable, I think.


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Post Re: Censorship of baby mod - depriving the fans?
metal chao wrote:
Oh no! Now you can't throw babies at people!

It's hardly an essential feature is it? You're not really that deprived.

Oh no! Now you can't criticize the government!

It's hardly an essential expression is it? You're not really that deprived.

Removing the mod was dumb. There was nothing intentionally or unintentionally hateful about it, it was just a little bit of the old ultra-violence. Why, in all my days playing CC, I've viddied more violence than I can recollect, and I fail to see the difference between vanilla violence and this. I call this a classic case of the wannados. Admins bored wannado something find something that someone might disagree with and satisfying their wannados.


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Post Re: Censorship of baby mod - depriving the fans?
Babies also are civilians, and a civilian mod to fill some city will be
appreciated by other sense, because its trustable.

but a thousand babies throwing by a baby cannon?
we must put a moral frontier, and I think that's unnecessary nasty.

I personally think we're forced to a moral super-voting thread.


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