We need a performance analysis on lua.
Like naw.

Boxes are also an engine class; WithinBox is a direct engine function. It's always going to be faster (albeit marginally) than the longform lua method (what geti posted as a square prox. check). Admittedly raycasting is also direct-engine, but I rather think there's more to check in a raycast than a box.

Also in this topic: crappy mods get turned into performance discussions.

To Lua Scripting, then?

Granted: I changed the boulder mine to one giant boulder. it dosent allway work so im going to fix it in the next version.

I actualy finished the Napalm mine before you said this.


if someone wants to make me some Lua files (i need 2) that would be great.
They would look something like this.



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I think you need to redo the description for the napalm mine...

Also, just as a suggestion, could you have a GIF of each mine? I think that would attract more people.

Thanks for catching that

The mins sorta crash the moment you select "done building".

The rock one doesn't work!

indeed. we should probably do some proper testing on all of this.

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note the similarity of the scripts.

THANKS
I'll see about adding that to the mod

Also, is that sensitive to teammates?

Note to other people:
this will get rid of manual detonation

sure as hell isnt sensitive to teammates. if the mine is an actor though, you could do an "and self.Team ~= actor.Team" in the for loop if.

Okay, these are pretty cool and all but I have a question.

Why does this even need to use lua for anything more than to replace the mines? what ever happened to Team = 2, Pinned actors with guns that make them explode? Oh right never mind, the AI would shoot at them, thats why.

So I have 2 Ideas, First of all, if anything enters an area, if it is AHuman or ACrab, and it is on the AI's team, then explode. In other words, Don't go through the tables, just check if ANYTHING enters. It only really needs to check once every 1/2 or 1/3 of a second, not every frame, every frame is kind of dumb, and lagtastic.

As for how to replace the mines, thats easy, I can think of 3 ways right off the bat.

1) Lua w/some method of checking for, A mine. Check ONE POINT, the exact point the mine is on, for ONLY that mine. Also, to reduce lag, Only check once every 3-5 seconds. thats ONE pixel's space, being check ONCE every 3-5 seconds, for one SPECIFIC instance. thats much less to load.

2) Manual replacement Via Lua, with areas. Add a HDevice, a tool, that works like the R/G/B Detonator. It sets a variable for a instant. that variable tells a Null spritted AEmitter (pinned) to Emit a new mine. you would need a HDevice per mine, and thus you might have to color-code them, by type, or you'd go to use it, and emit a mine into another mine, and they'd all blow up. Or you could just not bother, and call it a 'forced re-set' feature.

3) the mine is set to GetsHitMos = 0, and it gibs into another of itself, with 0 velocity. this way when it blows up, it turns into another of itself. Also to keep it from 'catching' all of the 'explosion' you could make it turn into a TDE, or an AEmitter, or SOMETHING, that you can put a delay on, that has a null sprite, that when X time has passed, it gibs, into another new mine.




More Ideas- Horizontal corridor mines, I don't like pits, things always get stuck there, they get clogged, and they take up to much space. also, my bases aren't vertical columns, also exploding light bulbs.

you dont know ♥♥♥♥ about lua do you miles?
yeah, cause you can just check if anything is there, right? no, actually you cant. going through the actor tables (oh no, 20 loops, boo) is the only way to do it without rays, which as we've discussed, will probably lag more than this simple box check. also, the script i posted only checks every 300ms, which is 3 1/3 times per second.
learn what you're talking about before you post stuff like that.
the exploding light bulb is a good idea though, it would be a nice trap that was pretty unidentifiable.

I like these big block mines. Reminds me of stuff you'd see in older platformers.

Miles doesn't actually know anything about anything.

Hey miles spoilers you could just have the mine gib into itself with recursion! :gasp: 0 velocity and high enough pinstrength and it won't move a pixel.

The mines are kinda tooo sensitive cuz a piece of debris past it and killed 2 units that were fighting a dropship.