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1 year jailtime.
Sued $3.6 million.

This is going to change the history of the internet as I can guarentee at least 1/2 internet mites use it.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/30/the-p ... ing-legit/

It belongs in its own topic.


Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:45 am
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Someone theorised that this will cause massive damage to P2P, as with it's shutdown, other trackers are used, and they may get overloaded, resulting huge damage to the BT system.


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It will recover.

You can't stifle the pirates, there's always new sites willing to take up the traffic, and advertising revenue.


Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:11 am
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And they said that about Oink, and yet here it is.

Torrenting and online piracy is a multi-headed hydra. The systematic elimination of public trackers will just push people down into the underground. People who are smart about piracy know that you use private trackers. What, Waffles, BitMeTV--you name the media, there is a private tracker for it.

The cottage industry that BitTorrent has created is more adaptive than the current record label/film studio system. The mainstream producers of music, television, and film are chained to an outdated analog system. Yet their political influence allows them to maintain the unprofitable, uncreative status quo.

We live in an age of iTunes, Hulu, Pandora/Last.fm, and other digital outlets. The mainstream establishment should get with the picture.

You can't uninvent BitTorrent, and you certainly can't uninvent human ingenuity. The concept of digital distribution (both legal and illegal) is out there. It's not going away.


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I love how people used to act like TPB was immune to law just because it's in Sweden. Such a stupid fanboyish attitude, and good riddance to the tracker as well.

Not that I'm against torrenting in general, just TPB because of the attitude of the owners and most of its users.


Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:34 am
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I never said permanently, just temporary.
Anyway, they will use the money to make something better apparently from TFA.

But I bet TPB will just turn into another napster.


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And they said that about Oink, and yet here it is.

Torrenting and online piracy is a multi-headed hydra. The systematic elimination of public trackers will just push people down into the underground. People who are smart about piracy know that you use private trackers. What, Waffles, BitMeTV--you name the media, there is a private tracker for it.

The cottage industry that BitTorrent has created is more adaptive than the current record label/film studio system. The mainstream producers of music, television, and film are chained to an outdated analog system. Yet their political influence allows them to maintain the unprofitable, uncreative status quo.

We live in an age of iTunes, Hulu, Pandora/Last.fm, and other digital outlets. The mainstream establishment should get with the picture.

You can't uninvent BitTorrent, and you certainly can't uninvent human ingenuity. The concept of digital distribution (both legal and illegal) is out there. It's not going away.


Yep. There's a reason iTunes holds a fifth of the market.

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I love how people used to act like TPB was immune to law just because it's in Sweden. Such a stupid fanboyish attitude, and good riddance to the tracker as well.

Not that I'm against torrenting in general, just TPB because of the attitude of the owners and most of its users.


They turned into just another thing that Hot Topic children thought made them different and "cool". They got what they deserved.


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Now where will I get my games and movies LEGALLY??? :(





...Didn't they get raided like a year or so ago?


Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:56 am
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I wish this thread doesn't become a war of ethics of piracy.
Like that piracy thread where CC was cracked and dapaperboy was banned.


Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:10 am
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Actually, I and cambiogris both got banned as well(1 week for off topic discussion of P2P anonymity).

But not as bad as dapperboy's eternity ban for asking for a crack.


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Piratebay always had shitty slow LEGAL torrents for me.

Even hidden-away 1-seeded LEGAL Demonoid torrents go faster.


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Demonoid is to private trackers as Winnie the pooh is to Watership Down. Similar, but slightly different leagues.


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venn177 wrote:
Piratebay always had shitty slow torrents for me.

Even hidden-away 1-seeded Demonoid torrents go faster.
Tracker, especially public ones, have little to do with the speed of the torrent. It's the peers you're connected to.

And whitty: If you have to ask that question, you're never going to find another place.


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Yeah, and the peers on every torrent on TPB suck ass.

What I'm saying is any one peer on Demonoid will give me a faster download than probably 90% of the torrents on TPB.


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Yeah, and the peers on every torrent on TPB suck ass.

What I'm saying is any one peer on Demonoid will give me a faster download than probably 90% of the torrents on TPB.

TPB was full of leechers, no wonder.


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