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 Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 12:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: At a secret laboratory dividing by zero 
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  Friendly FireAlright i have an idea for a mod but i need a push in the right direction. Is it possible to somehow make the bullets, rockets (not the splash damage) that your friendlies fire go through you. I'm sick of the bots that stand behind me, cause they always end up shooting me
PS: not sure if its been done before |
| Thu May 21, 2009 7:02 am |
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Banned  Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:22 pm Posts: 826 Location: Lookin' forward to mocking people on Jan 1st 2013.
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Re: Friendly Fire From what I know, that's not possible without Lua, but the thing is, that even if you manage to make fire ignore friendlies, you'll have to make two sets of weapons, one for each team (unless Lua can detect which team's actors the weapon's held by, and adjust accordingly), and make sure that you don't buy the weapons that ignore the other team.
So... the best thing to do is just stop using bots for anything other than target practice and base defense. Their accuracy is horrendous, anyway. |
| Thu May 21, 2009 9:29 am |
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Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 12:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: At a secret laboratory dividing by zero
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Re: Friendly Fire Alright then that's just to much work screw it
You can lock this or get rid of it or whatever you admins do |
| Fri May 22, 2009 6:31 am |
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 Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:20 am Posts: 4772 Location: Good news everyone!
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Re: Friendly Fire In the .ini for the weapon, there is a ignorethis = 1 variable, meaning bullets do not hurt/go through the user.
So it might be possible to do what you're talking about. I mean, look at this. viewtopic.php?f=61&t=14819&start=0 Bombs that only hurt the enemy team. Study the lua files... |
| Fri May 22, 2009 7:47 am |
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Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 12:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: At a secret laboratory dividing by zero
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Re: Friendly Fire Dont lock it
One problem i cant exactly read lua scripting im bairly able to read the normal script for cortex |
| Fri May 22, 2009 7:56 am |
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 Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:59 am Posts: 1726 Location: NSW, Australia
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Re: Friendly Fire Then there is little to do except just learn.
basic cortex command script is easy as anything (as long as english is your native language). Lua, I'm not sure: I've never mucked around in it. But if those morons over at facepunch can do it SO CAN WE! |
| Fri May 22, 2009 1:49 pm |
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A HUMAN BRAIN, SAFELY INSULATED FROM THE TERRORS OF HYPERSPACE  Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:54 pm Posts: 1070 Location: Somewhere beyond the endless sea of hyperspace, fighting for your right to call a planet home.
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Re: Friendly Fire A variable for 'IgnoresSameTeam' or something would have to be implemented. If it could be done otherwise, I get the idea it would be very hacky and unreliable.
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| Fri May 22, 2009 1:53 pm |
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REAL AMERICAN HERO  Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
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Re: Friendly Fire You'd have to get whatever you're shooting at, what team it is, then set hitsmos = true/false accordingly.
This would be yeah, pretty hacky and unreliable. |
| Fri May 22, 2009 2:30 pm |
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Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 12:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: At a secret laboratory dividing by zero
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Re: Friendly Fire So far this is sounden way out of my league i dont even know if i can try this
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| Fri May 22, 2009 11:44 pm |
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 Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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Re: Friendly Fire You could, oh, I don't know, not stand in front of guns
 It would be a little fruity if all your teammates' bullets went through you. A big problem is the 2-D factor; games like this have no Z plane, only an X & Y. Therefore, for the game to make sense, you have to assume that every single thing in the game is on the same spot in the Z plane, just with different coordinates on the X/Y planes. How weird would it look if a bullet zoomed across the screen, went through you without hitting you, but then impacted a member of the opposite team standing a few feet in front of you, apparently on the exact same surface? |
| Sun May 24, 2009 3:01 am |
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REAL AMERICAN HERO Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
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Re: Friendly Fire Ragdollmaster wrote: You could, oh, I don't know, not stand in front of guns :roll: It would be a little fruity if all your teammates' bullets went through you. A big problem is the 2-D factor; games like this have no Z plane, only an X & Y. Therefore, for the game to make sense, you have to assume that every single thing in the game is on the same spot in the Z plane, just with different coordinates on the X/Y planes. How weird would it look if a bullet zoomed across the screen, went through you without hitting you, but then impacted a member of the opposite team standing a few feet in front of you, apparently on the exact same surface? But if it's perfect 2d then why is there a background? |
| Sun May 24, 2009 3:22 am |
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Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:09 am Posts: 1115 Location: Being The Great Juju
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Re: Friendly Fire Perfect 2-D in the sense that all of the processing is done on one flat plane. Background images are just illusions. As you can't actually interact with the background, it's logical to assume that it's a completely separate X/Y plane than the tangible X/Y plane that CC uses for processing gameplay. Now, if the two were connected, the distance between them would be considered the Z plane, and you would be able to move between all the separate X/Y planes. Kind of like in LittleBigPlanet.
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| Sun May 24, 2009 3:37 am |
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 Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 3:10 pm Posts: 366 Location: Århus, Denmark
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Re: Friendly Fire Quote: How weird would it look if a bullet zoomed across the screen, went through you without hitting you, but then impacted a member of the opposite team standing a few feet in front of you, apparently on the exact same surface? I dont think that would be a problem cause the idea with a 2d game is (often) that it is a illusion of the 3d version but with better control and you look from the side. In that situation that you descripted It could make sense cause in the real world you wouldnt stand and fight with another and another guy and mabey 5 other guys in the same x, y or z axe! There for there could be a big chance that one of the guys behind him is a bit from the side so he could shoot pass him. The idea of removing frendly fire is a really good idea i think, at least that you could turn it on and of in options. |
| Thu May 28, 2009 5:26 pm |
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 Joined: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:44 pm Posts: 1916 Location: Flint Hills
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Re: Friendly Fire Weeeeeell I tried, and failed. But I think I've got the right general idea.
No errors, it just doesn't work. Maybe someone who knows what they're doing could fix this up? Attachments:
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| Thu May 28, 2009 10:12 pm |
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 Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 4:30 pm Posts: 1040 Location: England
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Re: Friendly Fire I just thought of a way that data could implement this, you know how guns have FireIgnoreThis, well there could be an option (in skirmish) to turn friendly fire off which basically makes FireIgnoreThis work for your whole team. That is the only way I think data would ever have a friendly fire off option (just extending a function, only for skirmish).
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| Thu May 28, 2009 11:29 pm |
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