Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
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mail2345
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:58 am Posts: 2054
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
That statement was pointing out that there are a lot of crackpot groups willing to complain about this.
If I had been a "Vaccines are mind control devices that kill babies" kind of person, I would posted fake facts.
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Wed May 06, 2009 8:50 am |
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411570N3
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
Ah, I see. I apologise for my previous post. Really, on any topic there will eventually be a bunch of people saying that it causes horrible side effects. I highly doubt that they'd seriously hinder a wide-scale vaccination program however.
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Wed May 06, 2009 9:03 am |
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Miles_T3hR4t
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:55 am Posts: 1627 Location: Ohio
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
mail2345 wrote: Quote: Yeah but swine flu has a vaccine and isn't permanent or transferred in the one action people will always do no matter how many people tell them not to.
Somehow, I don't think thata widespread vaccination will work.</I seriouslydonotbeliveinthosecrackpotstheories,theyarejustandexample> But anyway, odds are that Swine Flu is just a panic. Unless it mutates fast enough to pick up either deadliness(mix with H5N1), or resistance(to things like Tamiflu). Though so can any flu mutate those characteristics. 99% of the paranoia about vaccinations is made up on the spot, the only problem is this: All a vaccination is, is they give you a weaker version of the virus, IE Intentionally infecting you, so that your body creates natural antibodys to fend off a more serious infection. Theoretically the vaccinations could ALSO mutate into a more serious version, which is why the only vaccinations i've ever had are things like M.M.R.s, and if I ever had to Tetanus or rabies. but anyway...
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Wed May 06, 2009 10:18 am |
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411570N3
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
Miles_T3hR4t wrote: All a vaccination is, is they give you a weaker version of the virus, IE Intentionally infecting you, so that your body creates natural antibodys to fend off a more serious infection. Theoretically the vaccinations could ALSO mutate into a more serious version, which is why the only vaccinations i've ever had are things like M.M.R.s, and if I ever had to Tetanus or rabies. but anyway... He's correct essentially. The virus is modified to remove fatal symptoms and is administered to patients. Sometimes there are mild ill effects but it is otherwise harmless. The antibodies generated by your body to combat this disease are then stored until they are needed, wherepon they are released to combat the actual disease. I get free vaccines from the school, just had my tetanus, whooping cough and diptheria vaccines just recently.
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Wed May 06, 2009 1:17 pm |
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Miles_T3hR4t
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:55 am Posts: 1627 Location: Ohio
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
411570N3 wrote: Miles_T3hR4t wrote: All a vaccination is, is they give you a weaker version of the virus, IE Intentionally infecting you, so that your body creates natural antibodys to fend off a more serious infection. Theoretically the vaccinations could ALSO mutate into a more serious version, which is why the only vaccinations i've ever had are things like M.M.R.s, and if I ever had to Tetanus or rabies. but anyway... He's correct essentially. The virus is modified to remove fatal symptoms and is administered to patients. Sometimes there are mild ill effects but it is otherwise harmless. The antibodies generated by your body to combat this disease are then stored until they are needed, wherepon they are released to combat the actual disease. I get free vaccines from the school, just had my tetanus, whooping cough and diptheria vaccines just recently. Flu vaccination, side effects may include : flu like symptoms.
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Thu May 07, 2009 2:26 am |
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Manticore
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:03 am Posts: 342 Location: Spathiwa
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
id rather get the vaccination than the infection itself though
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Thu May 07, 2009 3:49 am |
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robolee
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 4:30 pm Posts: 1040 Location: England
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
first death of US citizen reported yesterday, 1795 people infected. WHO tells you to remain vigilant? WHO! ...k it was a terrible joke.
I've never been worried about the virus, I'm just scared that if I get it I will fail all my exams because I have to stay at home, and they will take the mock score which I haven't really been trying at and haven't done much revision. then I'll have to take the year again while all my friends are in the year above (I go college, well 6th form really but just think of it as college).
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Thu May 07, 2009 10:58 am |
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Seraph
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Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:28 pm Posts: 868 Location: London Server
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
Oh England's going to be fine, A schools been closed down the road from me in London for the past week, and there hasn't been an epidemic yet.
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Thu May 07, 2009 1:06 pm |
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Rawtoast
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:41 am Posts: 712 Location: New York
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
Miles_T3hR4t wrote: Ophanim wrote: Yeah, but you can't get aids from a cough. give it time, who says it can't mutate? A virus can mutate to become resistant to a drug in the course of a day. To state the obvious, this happens because its existence is threatened - individuals in the population who do not resist the drug die, the others procreate. Apply this to the situation of a virus developing the ability to go airborne. There is not an immediate impetus to do so in, for instance, AIDS. Its survival is not threatened by an inability to go airborne. This means that the acquisition of such a trait would take a very long time, if ever. It is hard to imagine a situation in which AIDS might go in this direction, especially considering the fact that it exists primarily in the blood stream. Influenza, on the other hand, infects your lungs, so its very obvious how being airborne happened in that case. Also, just to clear something up about vaccines - contrary to popular belief, a vaccine is rarely ever a "lesser dose/version of the virus". Usually, vaccines use the denatured (I hesitate to use the word "dead" because viruses are not life) "bodies" of a virus. It's basically an injection of virus corpses. These denatured viruses are incapable of infecting you, reproducing, attacking, anything, but your body's immune system will still try to get rid of them because they are foreign. In learning how to dispose of these denatured viruses, your body becomes better prepared for an attack by the real functioning thing. This process may produce "flu-like symptoms" because "flu-like symptoms" can be caused not by the flu, but by your body's reaction to the flu which can be similar for both contact with functioning flu viruses and denatured flu viruses. This is all based of memory, so please excuse me if any of this is wrong. I didn't have time to check wiki.
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Thu May 07, 2009 2:51 pm |
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NeoSeeker
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:13 am Posts: 1183 Location: eating sock's face like a cupcake
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
blown out of proportion by death hype and whiny cunts.
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:59 pm |
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411570N3
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
I recently read something complaining about how people in Australia were illogically putting on face masks. Someone else pointed out that they probably have the normal flu and are being considerate by attempting not to give it to anyone else. Discuss.
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Fri May 08, 2009 8:31 am |
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Exalion
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:59 am Posts: 1726 Location: NSW, Australia
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
NeoSeeker wrote: blown out of proportion by death hype and whiny foot. agreed.
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Fri May 08, 2009 8:59 am |
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Miles_T3hR4t
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:55 am Posts: 1627 Location: Ohio
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
411570N3 wrote: I recently read something complaining about how people in Australia were illogically putting on face masks. Someone else pointed out that they probably have the normal flu and are being considerate by attempting not to give it to anyone else. Discuss. didn't you at one point say you live in australia? that just makes this a strange thing to say.
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Fri May 08, 2009 12:23 pm |
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411570N3
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
I was reinforcing it or else it wouldn't make as much sense. If I lived in America, ther could be decent reason for face masks depending on area.
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Fri May 08, 2009 12:59 pm |
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Rawtoast
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:41 am Posts: 712 Location: New York
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Re: Swine Flu: Blown out of proportion or Global Pandemic?
mail2345 wrote: That statement was pointing out that there are a lot of crackpot groups willing to complain about this.
If I had been a "Vaccines are mind control devices that kill babies" kind of person, I would posted fake facts. Bahaha - I clicked the "3D Realms Tanks" thread into a tab, and then this thread into another tab. I clicked what I though twas the 3D Realms tab and read the above quote as if it were he OP.
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