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				 Coops150 
				
				
					 Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:53 pm Posts: 73 Location: In the pickle jar in your fridge
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						DiviX wrote: MS paint is the best spriting app ever.  MS Paint MS PaintMS PaintMS PaintMS PaintGOD DAMN MACS!!! no ms paint for me...    
					
  
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				 Manticore 
				
				
					 Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:03 am Posts: 342 Location: Spathiwa
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						i find that making a sprite from scratch is a bad plan. they always end up not looking how they should along with not working well for what you made it for. 
					
  
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				 DiviX 
				
				
					 Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:50 am Posts: 311 Location: I miss my +1k post count :(
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						Manticore wrote: i find that making a sprite from scratch is a bad plan. they always end up not looking how they should along with not working well for what you made it for. Works for me with small sprites but when it comes to bigger and complex sprites i just start to freehand it  
					
  
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				 Roon3 
				
				
					 Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 12:50 pm Posts: 899
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						I use MSPaint for all this. If I know what I'm doing I draw line art with a stylus thing, fix it with the mouse, and continue working on it as if it were any other sprite. 
					
  
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				 Grif 
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					 Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						Manticore wrote: i find that making a sprite from scratch is a bad plan. they always end up not looking how they should along with not working well for what you made it for. Maybe if you're bad at spriting, but it's pretty common among, y'know, the  entire art world to start from scratch.  
					
  
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				 Celdur 
				
				
					 Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:33 am Posts: 11
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						graphics gale is waaaay better than ms paint since its made with spriting in mind...its just so much simpler to use...but ofcource GG doesnt work with the CC pallete >.<
  althoug paint.net is a decent alternative and still better than MS paint 
					
  
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				 Darlos9D 
				
				
					 Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:50 am Posts: 1512 Location: Tallahassee, FL
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						I very much suggest GraphicsGale, since it allows huge zoom levels (up to 4000%) which is necessary when working on pixel art of such a small scale. If you'd like some tutorials, I suggest you start here:  http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/tutorials.aspYou'll learn a lot. Also, look around pixeljoint in general, it's a great community. Though one I admittedly haven't been to in ages. Also, why Celdur is telling you GraphicsGale doesn't work with the CC palette, I have no idea. It most certainly does, since it's all I use.  
					
  
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				 AtomicTroop 
				
				
					 Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:28 pm Posts: 328 Location: Finland
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						I really can't stand MsPaint for multiple reasons. 1. No layers. 2. No transparency. (Proper one, I mean) 3. Bad GIF support. 4. No pattern support. 5. Near to no versatility.
  I go with GG. 
					
  
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				 Geti 
				
				
					 Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:57 am Posts: 4886 Location: some compy
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						wow, all this has really amounted to is everyone yelling what app they use to make sprites. use whatever you're comfortable with. i use a mix of the gimp, PS6, and MSPaint. 
					
  
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				 Vivian 
				
				
					 Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:35 pm Posts: 3
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						yeah, who cares what program you use.
  I find when I'm spriting I start with an existing sprite so my scale is right, but I end up colouring it all black and just re-drawing freely over the top. Otherwise your shapes will all look 'vaguely familiar'... 
					
  
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				 Geti 
				
				
					 Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:57 am Posts: 4886 Location: some compy
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						i usually have other sprites open for comparison. 
					
  
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				 411570N3 
				
				
					 Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:26 am Posts: 4074 Location: That quaint little British colony down south
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						MS Paint + Paint.net is all I use, but it's all really a matter of preference and figuring out what works for you is pretty important.
  If anything just keep trying and you'll figure it out...
  EDIT: Though you should probably have a good idea of what you want to make, in your head or as described above - with scaled down screenies etc. 
					
  
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				 grenade 
				
				
					 Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:29 pm Posts: 607 Location: Ukraine,Odessa in the ASC bunker-base
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						The main thing in spriting is SHADING . Using shading you can make squares circular and anything . I use MSPaint 4ever . By the way , most-ly i do my own resprites . I just copy BG-17 and edit the sprite so you'll never find a BG-17 in it . Just look in my Asc.rte/HGL(or anything other) . Most weapons' inis are called BG-17 , same with sprites .
 
  EXAMPLE OF SHADING MMMMM MMMMM 
					
  
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				 AtomicTroop 
				
				
					 Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:28 pm Posts: 328 Location: Finland
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						So, most "professionals" first do the lineart, then add all solid colours, then shade it, then add details, then shade said details, and maybe check references in-between every step for reworking. 
					
  
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				 Roon3 
				
				
					 Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 12:50 pm Posts: 899
				 
				 
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				  Re: Creating a Professional-looking Sprite from Scratch  
					
						People also add manual anti-aliasing between different shades. (I think that's how prom works) 
					
  
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