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I agree with this. But the maturity level thing will make it a little challenging.
You also need to take into consideration that not everybody has the same basic level of understanding. One user might post something completely unreadable, but might think it is fine when told over and over again it is not.
Not everybody will cooperate or respond to this nicely.
But I think it is a good idea. It also forces a rise in the intelligence level on here.


Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:35 pm
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Maybe we need more active moderators who will sign on to this sort of thing. You know, guys who are on all the time and who actually give a ♥♥♥♥ about the community at large.








Just throwing that out there.


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That's not the right solution to the problem. You of all people know how that backfires. This is an alternative to expelling them from the community.

Ban people all you want, they can still come back all they like.


Oh god, Oh god.
I laughed extremely hard at the highlighted part.
You know why?
ProjektTHOR. That's all I need say.


Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:38 pm
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Falcon X wrote:
Maybe we need more active moderators who will sign on to this sort of thing. You know, guys who are on all the time and who actually give a ♥♥♥♥ about the community at large.
Just throwing that out there.

That is very important.
Maybe have some specific Support Forum only mods? They would need to be people who can and will try to help.


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Arturo wrote:
Oh god, Oh god.
I laughed extremely hard at the highlighted part.
You know why?
ProjektTHOR. That's all I need say.
/clap

I'm glad you finally saw the humor.


Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:46 pm
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I like this thought. Now all we need is a make the moderators inspect new threads and see if they are worthy of existing and nuke them if they are not.

And please, inspect and read the threads carefully before removing them.


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As a general rule, threads are not deleted, but rather stored in a forum that isn't visible to others. This way we can keep evidence and possibly restore innocent topics.


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I for one like this idea. I have not given a crap about DRLFF in the longest time due to
A: Stupid/Silly Op's
B: Stupid or Flame posts in response to A
C: "Witty" or stupid Flame posts in response to B

This will as many people said force the intelligence level of the Forum to go up and also might possibly scaring a lot of people away due to the Flames that go on in our threads here.


Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:28 am
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i agree with boycotting them. also, i lol'd at grenade's post, did anyone else?


Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:42 am
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I think this is a horrible idea.

We want more members not less.


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I'm with this. I've seen too many stupid little posts. If it isn't already one of the rules, there should definitely be a rule against making a new topic on something that's already been solved. The rules for specific forums should also be more specific. Most recently, someone posted a topic in Support for a problem with a mod. And I also agree that we need the Moderators to be online more often and to respond to things quicker.

In response to Tim's post that just appeared, I think that the purpose is that we get our members to think about what they want and realize that we can't read their minds and know what their problems are. Like my post in Feedback, they need to use common knowledge and make an intelligent post.


Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:25 am
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Tim is right.
Despite having problems with grammar or is too lazy to type right, we should welcome them.
And besides, they may have trouble typing on a keyboard, they might have something worth sharing that isn't just a mod.

Besides, we shouldn't let the next potential Capnbubs slip through our fingers through boycotting their trouble and needs.


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Now that I think what Tim said, yeah. That is true. Data made these forums to bring people that play a game called cortex command together and have fun with it and communicate about it here.... andmakemodsandstuff.

What this idea is doing, is pretty utopistic after all. Its good, but not possible and not worth anything for Data to achieve the goals of bringing as many ppl to CC as possible. It is HIS forum after all.


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I can perfectly understand what he wrote and so do you. Foruns work by rules. Users that break them get warning or ban and thats it. This is an open community like most are, and there are people from all arround the world and also from dinstinct ages. Many foruns do great and its not by being unkind to users or trying to eliminate any group but by showing them the way instead. When players act polite towards them and most users put efforts in making their topics, those eventually learn and feel like so.

Look Stardock foruns, many evolved topics, you will rarely see any case of flamming and even someone trying that, he will probably not receive it back like that. Players do need estimulation but it's nothing like eliminating.

Anyone can understand him. Also noone is obliged to read that, and if anyone want to reply him there is no problem. A thread opened without a strong reason, will soon shade, go down and 'dissapear' naturaly and yet noone should flame that player or everyone be leaded to ignore him.

That player wasn't agressive to noone. Flame or eliminate issues will only take this forum to the worst and make that it doesn't feel a nice place to be (even for the ones that aren't in the middle of these interventions, but still observe it). This will be generating many users that don't care much for the forum.
If you try to politely show something to someone, then you will be helping the forum if that is what really wants to. You might be helping that user and showing many how to act, and even in the case of your argument being mostly invalid, just for being polite any part of what is true about it will be digested or come out. Flamming, calling for ignore etc (in all cases or without a really strong reason) you be sure will be like trowing bad seeds all arround especially for the big group that will read it, because those are negative attitudes. (You can see in some foruns it is incredible more predominant than in others)

We should always consider that not everyone have enough age, have english has a native tong and writing skills. For a thread without much purpose or bad writen to where it is really hard to understand (because some people somehow strangely think they are obliged to read what their eyes get into and get frustrated because it needs a bit more of effort to understand, that being their mistake entirely) a polite reply will be an attempt of much more value to you, to that player and for the community in general. If anyone wants to help a community to improve (and himself), thats a best way to go.

The disgusting thing are flammers. They are the worst for a community and sound much more ignorant than any player that would have no forum experience or english/writing skills whatsoever but doesn't mean to freely trow harm to anyone. Noone is obliged to read or reply to any thread personaly, but calling for a general segregation is not the way if to help improve nor is fair. The exemple you gave is a weak and very unfair reason to do that. If you see, Flamming is always something prohibited by rule in the best foruns and efforts put to end that, but there is no strong rule against anyone who lack objetivity or good writing in their posts aside of maybe a sticky note asking for the 'objetive' part. It might happen because of age, being foreign or lacking forum experience has said, and will always happen but its not a threat and it doesn't make of them disrespectful persons.

PS: Not saying flamming was used here, I meantioned it has what is - or at least was - the problem has why this forum can't improve.


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Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:52 am
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One of the biggest problems we have here is that some of the older members think they're above the rules and that they can write new ones, whether or not they are moderators. These particular members are generally rude to everyone else, and the only reason they're not banned right now is because all of the admins are also old members.


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