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The maps look fun, but unfortunately I can't play them on an AMD X2 3800+... What kind of CPU do you have?

Although thankfully I have a new Thinkpad on the way which will completely blow away my desktop... :smile:


Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:23 pm
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Well, mine's... kinda fast. :P
I guess you can split the mapsize in half, to see if it helps? Dunno.
If enough people want to then I might make some smaller ones. :???:


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Yes, please. That would increase my enjoyment threefold. I get 20spf on Crater, much less the two areas...


Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:37 pm
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Might want to apply more sunscreen then.


Also, these are great maps, nice work.

Make them smaller. If my beast of a computer lags a bit, imagine what it's doing to the community's computers.

(be happy, I switched out my keyboard''s batteries just so I could write this post =P)


Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:51 pm
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I'll see what I can do. Are you positive that the speed is related to the sheer size of the map though, or would deleting a bunch of actors already do the trick?
I can't test it myself, since my pc is brand new. (Old one died a few weeks ago.)


Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:05 pm
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It's both. more than 20 actors on the map is a pretty big strain already, and the map is massive. It's the combo.

Perhaps cut the map by to 75% of the original and remove most of the actors. that should de a bit better.

Testing your new ones now.


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I like the old way so im keeping them =3


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I'll see what I can do. Are you positive that the speed is related to the sheer size of the map though, or would deleting a bunch of actors already do the trick?
I can't test it myself, since my pc is brand new. (Old one died a few weeks ago.)


actually I think the main source of the problem is it is too tall.
It is like twice the height of most maps, if not more.


Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:21 pm
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Well, if someone can test it. That's only something you can do. :)
Edit the .bmp file and shave off half of it, or remove all the bots in the .ini files and see if it goes better after that. I'd love to know the results.
Again, I can't test it since I am not having any problems. :???:


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Gotcha! wrote:
A hint: One of them is the almighty UV-9 Pulsar, flesh melting goodness. (Not that we can make flesh melt in this game, but okay. :) )


Dun dun duuun... The CRUSADER is coming.


Btw, I wouldnt edit the maps, they are absolutely perfect even with the slight lag. It felt somewhat nostalgic from some game when I came falling down the incredibly long emergency shaft on Area 44 that kept getting me lower and lower...

Also just pointing out that some actors dont grab their guns at the beginning of the level. You can make it foolproof by adding a few extra parameters to the actor that he has it pre-equipped. It works like this:

Instead of this:

Code:
   PlaceSceneObject = AHuman
      CopyOf = Soldier Heavy
      Position = Vector
         X = 1860
         Y = 1164
      HFlipped = 0
      Team = 0
   PlaceSceneObject = HDFirearm
      CopyOf = AK-47
      Position = Vector
         X = 1860
         Y = 1164
      HFlipped = 0


Do this:

Code:
   PlaceSceneObject = AHuman
      CopyOf = Soldier Heavy
      Position = Vector
         X = 1860
         Y = 1164
      HFlipped = 0
      Team = 0
      AddInventory = HDFirearm  //Pre-equipped weapon
         CopyOf = AK-47   //Desired gun


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Brilliant! Thanks, numgun! Well, guess a new version will be coming out soon.
I think I'll add some more maps with that. A snow one and a desert one I hope.

But I want to finish my Silencer first, which proved to be tougher than I thought.
It makes me respect modmakers like numgun and the guy who made the DarKlones.
Creating characters and weapons is a nightmare for me. :oops:
(Got the original sounds ripped from the game and the graphics for the guns, but that's it.)

But I am going offtopic in my own topic... :P


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either way great job and ill keep your maps the way they are =3 (Next month im getting a better graphics card... wether thatll help or not i dont really care)


Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:43 pm
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Well, I'll be making some more maps I think.

My Silencer is giving me headaches. Can't figure out the mess in the .ini files. :)
If anyone feels like continuing what I started, you can download what I made here.

It contains gun images (which look great if I do say so myself :-P ), projectiles for the guns, several clips, a Silencer head and sounds, directly ripped from the game itself.

I'll be going back to map making, which is a lot easier. :oops:

Thanks for the earlier tip, numgun. I'll be re-releasing my maps soon, with two extra maps. They're all holding their guns at the start now, and on the moon maps there's also a planet in the moon sky.
I'll probably replace the backgrounds in the grassy maps too.

The new maps will be just as big as these ones though, since, well, that kinda makes them special I think. :grin: Perhaps the initial slowdowns will be less, what with all actors already holding their guns. Dunno.


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Cant wait, I still love these maps alot and keep playing on them most of the time.

As for the silencer, give him a seperate post in mod making so it would be noticed better. That is incase you gave up on him.


Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:19 pm
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Alright;
Another update. (It's harder to stop than I thought.)

I've added two new maps in my map pack and it's downloadable here.
Tell me what you think!

Other changes:
- All actors now carry their gun right at the start, so no more actors looking for something to shoot with because their boomstick bounced one feet away from them.
- Actors with Flak Cannons now carry an SMG as well, to help them avoid friendly massacres.
- Minor cosmetic changes to several maps, mainly Crater. (More ice added in the crater, making it look less boring.)
- Added a planet in the moon sky.
- Changed some other stuff, forgot what. :???:

Todo: Finding a nice background to be used with the 'earth' maps.

Note: Outpost 9 has many objects and might be very slow on slower machines, while Area 89 has few objects in comparison. Those with slow performance, I would like to know if you see any difference.


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