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Well frankly I'd love to test this new version you have there, but it's been at least a week since I last managed to connect to your site. And with several different computers, mind you.

Any chances of moving to a different host or something?


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I just don't think the blocks break right. It's unreasonable.

Half the time they randomly break if there is a block 5 spaces down and 2 to the right. (I'm not serious, just exaggerating. Maybe like 3 down and 1 to the right.)


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When looking at the FPS window and whatnot it should show the stress on the tiles so you know what, where, and why stuff is happening and whether or not its gonna crumble.. That way you can see what needs improving and what needs to be tweaked.


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What?


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Um geti... just out of curiosity did you happen to change anything on the webpage?


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zeno39 wrote:
Um geti... just out of curiosity did you happen to change anything on the webpage?
Yes, just about everything.

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When looking at the FPS window.
That's the game console, not just an fps window. I might put in some sort of "view how much stress this tile is under" type of view at some point but not for a while.
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Well frankly I'd love to test this new version you have there, but it's been at least a week since I last managed to connect to your site.
Really? I have no trouble from any computer at all in this country :|

Hooray, my avatar has expired it seems <_<


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Once you put in more support Imagine how much cooler this place would look.

Im enjoying this game too much..


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Quite a few bugs have been fixed, and the items now work on a raycast rather than relative positions. This means that firearms will be possible soon, hooray! Support hasn't been raised on the various tiles yet though, I need to do a bit of work on the actual support algos before tweaking those values (to prevent a lot of stuff from behaving badly).

Now, I'm going away for a week, I might be able to get a bit of work done on this but it'll be away from the computer (I probably need it).
I'll do quite a bit of design work on it though and hopefully I'll get the vegetation coding done when I'm away (if anything just to make the levels more interesting), though no promises.

oh also I got some work done on making unexposed tiles unseeable but I really need to soften the effect before I release that, sadly. However, I now know of an option for the super-sonic indication setup which won't take a horrid amount of time, so that's one step closer too, for all those of you that want it.


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Will this mostly be a building sandbox or what will the finished gameplay look like?


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A surprise appearance by me!
Righto, I'm going to go into a lot more detail on this in the design doc, but essentially gameplay will consist of you exploring a procedural (hopefully streaming, minecraft style) world in "day" sections. The zombies require light to function (photosynthesis), so sleeping rough is only an issue if you're in an area with agressive fauna (and have medication and food and whatnot to keep your stamina up and any disease at bay). You'll pretty much be free to do as you please (at least at the beginning, though there might be options to take "contracts" for more concrete objectives) digging and building and surviving and exploring, but the zombies (attracted by any noisy conduct) and the local fauna will provide things to kill and also limited food.
Essentially it'll be a survival sim, with zombies.
There could be some win conditions (escape and rescue via finding a radio and contacting someone) in basic survival but there'll also probably be "point rush" modes where you have say, 2-7 days (~8-30 minutes irl (1 in game day will be about 4 minutes)) where you try to amass as many points/minerals/items/artefacts/whatever in that time.
Beh, I've got to go. Sorry for unfinished ramblings.


So no, not a construction sim. That's just the current state.


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Made good progress over the last few nights, managed to get some time to work on it around seeing a million people (exaggeration) and driving 400km (not exaggeration) and got vegetation drafted (I want to do a lot more with grass and flowers, and I haven't even touched on trees yet :|) and made a basic "you can only see the surface of the landscape" thang, which took way, way too long in hindsight. I've got to reconsider some support stuff to get supports working over a much larger distance and actually doing good things for the background of tunnels, but the stuff I've added does a few good things for the atmosphere without changing the gameplay very much. oh, oh, also made "dust" gibs for damaged terrain, which prevents gravel showers from killing you so quickly but sort of makes killing zombies with cave-ins near impossible, so I'll see what I can do next time I get some time to work on it.

Working on getting a load/save system happening too. All I've managed to do inthusfar though is make the saves take a lot of time to load (much larger file) but actually loading the saved level didn't work at all. Only ~10min have gone into trying to get that working though, so no biggie. I'll work it out.


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The construction system is wierd.
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On the Left side I have four blocks ontop of each other, but on the other side I have three and if I put another one ontop, then it gibbs. :???:

Also you can cluster-bomb zombies by creating boxes in midair above them, it's much more effective than hacking at them with your knife.

When do we get GUNS? :smile:


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Dayum this is pretty sweet.
Also, sometimes blocks don't gib above zombies.

The only thing i'm worried about is that some retard is going to tell you it's a copy of minecraft in 2D.


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Already happened a few weeks ago, so yeah.


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Yeah, the comparisons between this and minecraft have been happening for a while.
I'm getting back home today at some point, so I'll likely get the new build up (after removing all the experimental stuff <_<) within 24 hours. The support stuff hasn't been fixed, sadly, but I'll figure something out soon enough, I hope. I'm just hoping I don't have to re-write a lot of it, considering the length of it.
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Also, sometimes blocks don't gib above zombies.
?? I'm confused about what you mean with this..
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The construction system is wierd.
Also you can cluster-bomb zombies by creating boxes in midair above them, it's much more effective than hacking at them with your knife.
When do we get GUNS? :smile:
First two are related to both the support system issues and the fact that mouse-construction is a debug feature and not indended as anything resembling final.
A .22 rifle is coming soon, just don't expect it to be as punchy as I'm assuming you want, these zombies aren't the standard "shoot 'em in the face!" kind, and a .22 will take a good 3-5 or so shots to drop one.


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