Basically, although it's more to do with trends in oil well production rates and less to do with availability to consumers.
*Wonkyth is a qualified Permaculture consultant, and will now back out of this discussion and watch
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| Author: | Testsubject196 [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:16 am ] |
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| Author: | Grif [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
This topic is henceforth for discussion on a perfectly valid topic. Any more shilling of the book (or deprecation of the author for doing so, you backseat moderating homos) results in, at minimum, board warnings. |
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| Author: | TorrentHKU [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
When this actually happens, yes, ♥♥♥♥ will go down, but humans will adapt, one way or another. What I think will happen is we'll keep using the oil until it literally becomes impossible to acquire oil for non-fuel purposes. At that point, the world will collectively ♥♥♥♥ a brick, and pull their act together. That's the problem with society, it takes a slap to the face to get us to do anything. Or in this case, a punch to the kidney. |
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| Author: | Testsubject196 [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:26 am ] |
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| Author: | 411570N3 [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
Regardless if oil use as fuel is reduced, much of the plastics industries will still require oil to function. |
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| Author: | zalo [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
There's a moon of Mars... that contains natural gas of non-biological origins. AKA Natural Fuel, not Fossil Fuel. Quote: Niemann concludes the methane "must be replenished by geologic processes on Titan," What's the point? Well, maybe if the Earth's oil is natural like the fuel on Titan, then it's being produced by the Earth's geologic processes. Which means that it's not a fixed amount of petrified plant matter, but a constantly refreshing source of fuel. What does that mean for Peak Oil? There's nothing to worry about (except Global Warming, if you believe in that too). What if I'm wrong? Then it's time to short oil, because Hubbert's Peak Oil is supposedly now. |
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| Author: | TorrentHKU [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
What if the rate of replenishment is pitifully slow, and we use as much in a day as is produced in a year? |
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| Author: | 411570N3 [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
I was under the impression that peak oil referred to production as in the rate at which it becomes available for our usage. |
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| Author: | Wonkyth [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
Basically, although it's more to do with trends in oil well production rates and less to do with availability to consumers. *Wonkyth is a qualified Permaculture consultant, and will now back out of this discussion and watch
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| Author: | 411570N3 [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
I was more meaning our as in humanity as a whole, which would be coincident with the model you suggested. |
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| Author: | Cadwaller [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
My main thought is that bad things will happen if we wait for it to happen, and we don't know exactly when it will happen. Although people think solar and wind are inefficient, i think that it would be possible to convert to these forms of energy if we supplementally used nuclear while we worked on developing solar and wind. Because oil use is preparing the biggest economical and environmental disaster known to mankind simultaneously, the most important thing is to start getting rid of it, now. Another possible solution for this would be the natural derivation of fuels from natural substances. Does anyone know what the practicality of converting beeswax to petroleum would be? I know it sounds ridiculous, but its something I've been wondering about lately. |
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| Author: | Duh102 [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
You don't really need wind or nuclear if you built enough solar plants in the right places, though I suppose they would help reduce the number of solar plants we would need. |
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| Author: | Wonkyth [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
There are sustainability issues involved with solar power as well, although many of these can be avoided by using non-photovoltaic means. |
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| Author: | Dr. Evil [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peak Oil |
Duh102 wrote: You don't really need wind or nuclear if you built enough solar plants in the right places, though I suppose they would help reduce the number of solar plants we would need. That's really cool, actually. I'm a little sceptical, as those discs would be flipping huge IRL, and I'm not sure if that takes transmission into account. I'm throughly in favour of more nuclear though. |
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