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MaximDude
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:19 pm Posts: 2073
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Re: Art Dump
Looks awesome.
What did you use to make that?
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:42 am |
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madmax
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:01 pm Posts: 378 Location: Nomadic
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Re: Art Dump
Looks like some classy District 9 weaponry. (no iron sights?)
Pelbox: The left hand looks too thin, that or the thumb is too wide.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:50 am |
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Grif
REAL AMERICAN HERO
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
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Re: Art Dump
Jon wrote: More 3D, anyone? It is a futuristic rifle with a bullpup configuration. All objects and UV-maps are 100% made by me. EDIT: wireframes are here: http://idzr.org/dcweYou need to seriously consider ergonomics if you ever want to make something that looks even slightly feasible in real life. Bullpup weapons are a pain to use practically in nearly all circumstances, and you've got one with a magazine angled a full forty five degrees from vertical towards the front of the gun. The weapon itself, apparently a standard pew pew bullet shooter, contains no visible action, nor an ejection port, nor even ROOM for any kind of reloading mechanism. It apparently cycles rounds through the power of magic. The rear of the weapon is a textbook case of making things exactly as uncomfortable as possible; there's literally a concentrated point that would redirect all the recoil force directly into your shoulder. The forward grip is mounted with an incredibly silly laser sight that would get in the way of any right handed soldier (that is, probably seventy five percent of them). There's no trigger guard, only a useless handguard. Unless you plan on engaging in combat against edged weapons at extremely close range, I fail to see how this is necessary, or how it replaces the safety advantage of an actual trigger guard. With absolutely no aiming mechanisms of any kind, the weapon would be so "futuristic" that it's actually worse than any firearm made in the last three hundred years. Oh, and stop trying to duplicate the aesthetic of D9. They had to physically construct their models, and you're obviously incapable of picturing the restrictions of actual three dimensional space.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:50 am |
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Benpasko
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:26 am Posts: 1633
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Re: Art Dump
Why such hat- Oh wait, you're Grif. Realism aside, the gun is cool looking, although he does have a point about the laser. That's about the only thing I would change, maybe replace it with a scope.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:45 am |
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Toes from Europe
Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:34 pm Posts: 883 Location: America
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Re: Art Dump
It looks extremely uncomfortable to hold
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:47 am |
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Benpasko
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:26 am Posts: 1633
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Re: Art Dump
It's not about holding it, it's about it looking sexy when slung across your back. I assume it's given to expendable grunts, who die before getting to fire their weapons at all, so it doesn't need to shoot or be practical in any way.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:51 am |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: Art Dump
Benpasko wrote: so it doesn't need to shoot or be practical in any way. So give them a stick. Lots cheaper, and it doesn't provide your enemy with ammo and metal to melt down.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:09 am |
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Benpasko
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:26 am Posts: 1633
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Re: Art Dump
Who says it hold ammo? It's about lookin good, honcho.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:15 am |
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Toes from Europe
Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:34 pm Posts: 883 Location: America
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Re: Art Dump
Gun isn't sexy, it's pretty much naked
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:36 am |
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Grif
REAL AMERICAN HERO
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
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Re: Art Dump
that gun is quite literally a tube with a triangle and a handle attached
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:59 am |
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neroe23
Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:16 pm Posts: 102
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Re: Art Dump
I don't know why, but I love it. Maybe the futurism of this weapon. And for the shooting mechanism, did anyone try a Magnetic field ?
PS: I hate ergonomic things.
EDIT: Didn't notice that, where am I supposed to put my second hand ?!?
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:19 pm |
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NaXx
Joined: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:18 pm Posts: 618 Location: Ancient Hispania
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Re: Art Dump
MaximDude wrote: What did you use to make that? Blender, my friend. neroe23 wrote: where am I supposed to put my second hand ?!? shhh dual rampages rocks
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:51 pm |
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Jon
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:34 pm Posts: 143
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Re: Art Dump
I'm seeing a general consensus that it needs lots of work. SO, no I did not use blender. I hope it doesn't look like I did. And no, I did not copy district 9. Just because it is white and scratched does not mean it's from D9. @Grif you made some good points, but it is the future. In most scifi, the weapons are not practical, they just look cool, D9 included. As for the laser sight, that can be mounted on either side as there is a connector on both sides. But as far as ergonomics go, I don't know what to say, I guess I'm just not a good industrial designer. It's actually sort of modeled after the Steyr AUG. So basically, I get the idea that it needs help, any ideas to improve the design?
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:12 am |
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Grif
REAL AMERICAN HERO
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm Posts: 5655
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Re: Art Dump
fix everything I pointed out for a start
look, here's the thing: you don't know what bullpup means beyond "making it look cool"
the "advantage" of a bullpup system is that it's possible to shorten the overall length of the gun without sacrificing barrel length (and thus both muzzle velocity and accuracy)
this is done by putting the mechanical action of the gun behind the trigger.
now, if we assume caseless ammunition (possible) then you can explain away the ejection port (or rather, the lack thereof)
however, the entire point of modern firearms is that they require no external energy to operate. all of the energy needed to propel the bullet and reload is provided by the accelerant in a controlled chemical explosion
what this means is that the only thing you ever run out of on a modern gun is ammunition, not electricity or any other medium. pneumatic recirculation methods (the most common) use a smaller tube that compresses the expanding gas of the fired round to drive a piston back, which is connected to the action that reloads a round. systems thus designed, while "fragile" in a general sense, as they rely on complex moving parts, are still much more reliable than electrically controlled firing, as well as easier to reload.
Since, beyond the action of the gun, it's basically just a standard firearm that you have pictured, I would simply suggest tightening down your design in general (any military weapon will not have unnecessary frill of any kind, and painting things glossy white is just asking for trouble) and avoiding pointless fiddly bits. the holes in the barrel mount, ostensibly to reduce recoil and act as gas siphons, look silly and there rae not enough to act as decent muzzle brakes.
the gun appears to expand in the rear half, for no apparent reason, and then comes to a point that's actually further back on the gun than the buttplate. "inline" (that is, buttplate directly behind muzzle) weapons are preferred for recoil absorption and a reduced tendency to kick up. "iron sights" (really, any two pieces of metal that form a line) would also really help with the overall view of the weapon. any gun that's impractical to aim AND hold is not a useful gun. also, some means of attaching a sling/a carry handle/attachment rails would lend much more to its appearance as a "realistic" weapon
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:49 am |
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p3lb0x
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Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:53 pm Posts: 1896 Location: in my little gay bunker
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Re: Art Dump
The reason D-9 guns are uncomfortable is because they are made for a different species. Your point is null and void being bored in class
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:21 pm |
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