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know what else smashes zombies hard in the face

crowbars

know what else is not made of dumb XDD DAMASCUS STEEL FOLDED A THOUSAND TIMES LOST TO THE CENTURIES, REDISCOVERED (to make dumb weeaboo replica katanas, no less) CAN CUT DIAMONDS AND SPLIT ATOMS

I mean holy ♥♥♥♥

anyone who thinks swords are a good weapon period when compared to guns and without epic ♥♥♥♥ of training are twelve year old weeaboos

guess you fit the bill then eh


Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:19 am
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Grif wrote:
know what else smashes zombies hard in the face

crowbars

know what else is not made of dumb XDD DAMASCUS STEEL FOLDED A THOUSAND TIMES LOST TO THE CENTURIES, REDISCOVERED (to make dumb weeaboo replica katanas, no less) CAN CUT DIAMONDS AND SPLIT ATOMS

I mean holy ♥♥♥♥

anyone who thinks swords are a good weapon period when compared to guns and without epic ♥♥♥♥ of training are twelve year old weeaboos

guess you fit the bill then eh

Ermm...I at no point said ti was better than a gun, guns kick katana ass. I just said it would be my melee weapon of choice. Also, it was made recently, and I just like the sword, I'm not some weeaboo, so stop with the hating.

EDIT: Well, I'm goin to bed, got a big day tommorow.


Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:25 am
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alright, i got it. get a crowbar and take the straighter side and make it a katana for him, while the other side is still functional. that way when the blade inevitably breaks, there is a backup and a tool. all in one.
what i would really like for a melee weapon would be to set up a moving bar with a steel rope going through the middle and having another rope to swing the bar back and forth in a chokepoint. no chance of infection and a good deal of force can be put in. just set it at the general head height and you can take out the odd short midget that makes it through every now and then.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel
Not all that legendary, except for the mythical properties.

Anyhow, to be good with a katana you need training, and not to be a naive little child who watches anime all day.

But yeah, modern guns are way better than katanas, but I'd think using a katana would be better than pistol whipping. Crowbars have more uses than katanas, but aren't quite as deadly.

I'd think if you were dealing with one zombie a bayonet would be a good idea, you need to sever the head to kill a zombie, but at least it would keep it at bay, you know, what with being attached to the end of your gun.

If you were not in an urban area, in the outdoors, I'd recommend a halberd. It's kind of a long-shafted axe, it would be perfect for decapitation, as long as you were skilled.


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CrazyMLC wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel
Not all that legendary, except for the mythical properties.

Anyhow, to be good with a katana you need training, and not to be a naive little child who watches anime all day.

But yeah, modern guns are way better than katanas, but I'd think using a katana would be better than pistol whipping. Crowbars have more uses than katanas, but aren't quite as deadly.

I'd think if you were dealing with one zombie a bayonet would be a good idea, you need to sever the head to kill a zombie, but at least it would keep it at bay, you know, what with being attached to the end of your gun.

If you were not in an urban area, in the outdoors, I'd recommend a halberd. It's kind of a long-shafted axe, it would be perfect for decapitation, as long as you were skilled.


Would playing around with it, and swinging it around all the time count as training? I'm familiar with it, but I'm no expert. But, then again, these are zombies I'd be fighting, not trained swordsmen. I would really just have to know how to swing it hard.


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definite training, although you may want to use a weighted staff if you aren't actually fighting something. you don't want a blade swinging around for no reason.
better training would be with different height targets. and possibly moving ones. it's a fun weapon though, I've gotten to use one before as my old fencing teacher was an old world weapons enthusiast. i have to say nothing is like swinging around a claymore though. you can just FEEL the power in it.


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Melee - Halberd, or something long and pointy. A spear will do, actually.
Handgun - Needs plenty of ammo and plenty of stopping power (zombies are hard to kill). 9mm isn't huge stopping power wise BUT plenty of ammo, and alternate weapons, so I guess a wonder 9 will do. Glock, baretta, Colt, don't matter much.
SMG -Mp5 is nice and reliable apparently.
battle rifle - AK-47. reliable, common as muck, common ammo too.
Machine Gun - M249 or M2 mounted to a vehicle.
Rifle - Something with good accuracy and scope. Any bolt action .303 will do.
Shotgun - m3, but any will do. essential zombie weapon as it's good for close up fighting

Can't believe you guys left shotgun off the list!


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hey guys

go catch the buttplate of an m14 swung around the barrel in the head

and then tell me guns aren't "melee" weapons

dedicated swords are dumb, pointless, cumbersome, and not at all worth the effort

the entire point of inventing guns was so that time and effort did not have to be spent training knights

instead, we can hand fifty people guns and spent three days teaching them to point and shoot

gonna kill a hell of a lot more

"brainless zombies" or no, swinging through 8 inches of neck with perfect accuracy and enough force to cleave heads (repeatedly) is going to tire you out like hell. a hell of a lot more than stabbing the end of any old pointy stick into the brain, and you're a lot less likely to cut yourself, too


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There was also another weapon that was a long spear with a spade-style head on it, so you thrust it at someone's neck and it decapitates them. I didn't mention it before because I cant remember the name.

Maybe I should shut up about melee weapons though, because the place that I learned about most of them was from that survival handbook, and that was mainly hit-and-run tactics, you guys seem to be talking about having a horde of zombies attacking and having to fend them off. I agree, guns would probably be much better in such a situation.


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You're thinking of the Shaolin Spade because you take the zombie survival guide way too seriously.


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I liked the book, and I thought it was funny...
But yeah, I could imagine it being effective in such a situation.


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Tomaster wrote:
Nah, he means a modern one with alloys'n'stuff. In which case it's pretty much just as good as any other light-ish sword.

Anyway; yeah, a bayonet is probably going to be my choice. It's a blade on a stick, just like a polearm. Except the stick can shoot bullets.

Also, with the mention of non-combat equipment, I'd probably like a crowbar too, as well as one of them windy torches, some duct-tape and a shovel.
And lots of rope. Rope is useful.


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well grif, the reason for a hand to hand weapon is to conserve ammo. there is a finite amount of ammo that is out there, and if this is a full blown zombie apocalypse, i don't think many manufacturers are producing bullets when they're dead. and guns make noise, no reason attracting more of the problem when you could ust take a crowbar, sneak up, and bash em on the head. or whatever other weapon. either way, in this kind of situation, no weapon should be discounted as a means of survival.


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Note he said "dedicated swords". He isn't against bayonets or combat knives apparently.


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TomThom wrote:
well grif, the reason for a hand to hand weapon is to conserve ammo. there is a finite amount of ammo that is out there, and if this is a full blown zombie apocalypse, i don't think many manufacturers are producing bullets when they're dead. and guns make noise, no reason attracting more of the problem when you could ust take a crowbar, sneak up, and bash em on the head. or whatever other weapon. either way, in this kind of situation, no weapon should be discounted as a means of survival.


Are you forgetting that you most likely won't be going against just zombies, but other people also?

Oh and you can reload casings.


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