Any time someone claims "Yeah the old ways were better, modern X has changed for the worse because they forgot things",
Well, this modern archery crap is for target shooting. He doesn't unduly disparage it, as he says during a live interview, it's just less active, probably less viable for combat/military, and personally less fun.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:56 pm
CaveCricket48
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Depends on the military you're talking about.
Some nations had their archers in huge groups firing heavy bows to rain down a storm of arrows, bows that would be way too heavy to rapid-fire. Others had them on horseback with lighter bows, where rapid fire on an individual archer would be more useful since you're not an artillery unit.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:23 pm
Asklar
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Re: The Lounge
I summon Caek and his english longbowmen.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:27 pm
caekdaemon
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Re: The Lounge
Asklar wrote:
I summon Caek and his english longbowmen.
You rang?
Personally, I'm more of a fan of crossbows than I am of regular bows. Easier to use and you can pretty much train a raw recruit in their use in around a week since they're simple weapons to use. Bows, on the otherhand, especially the English Longbow, required lots of training to be any good at it, so you ended up with the creation of things like yeomanry, with people having to practice from childhood to get any good with it.
Even then, they weren't the spectacular killing machines that fiction likes to paint them as.
I'd rather have a good steel cranequin than a longbow, mostly because I'm not a bowman :p
Oh, and because mixed crossbowmen and pikemen had already started to put an end to the dominance of mounted heavy cavalry in the late medieval.
Anyway, I've been thinking of getting a Wessex flag, maybe a Harald Godwinson one.
Because...
Why not? :p
We English are the sons of the white dragon, after all.
Whet the bright steel, Sons of the White Dragon! Kindle the torch, Daughter of Hengist! The steel glimmers not for the carving of the banquet, It is hard, broad and sharp pointed; The torch goeth not to the bridal chamber, It steams and glitters blue with sulpher. Whet the steel, the raven croaks! Light the torch, Zernebrock is yelling! Whet the steel, sons of the Dragon! Kindle the torch, daughter of Hengist!
The black clouds are low over the thane’s castle: The eagle screams-he rides on their bosom. Scream not, grey rider of the sable cloud, Thy banquet is prepared! The maidens of Valhalla look forth, The race of Hengist will send them guests. Shake your black tresses, maidens of Valhalla! And strike your loud timbrels for joy! Many a haughty step bends to your halls, Many a helmed head.
Dark sits the evening upon the thane’s castle, The black clouds gather round; Soon shall they be red as the blood of the valiant! The destroyer of forests shall shake his red crest against them; He, the bright consumer of palaces, Broad waves he his blazing banner, Red, wide, and dusky, Over the strife of the valiant; His joy is the clashing swords and broken bucklers; He loves to lick the hissing blood as it bursts warm from the wound!
All must perish! The sword cleaveth the helmet; The strong armour is pierced by the lance: Fire devoureth the dwelling of princes, Engines break down the fences of battle. All must perish! The race of Hengist is gone- The name of Horsa is no more! Shrink not then from your doom, sons of the sword! Let your blades drink blood like wine; Feast ye in the banquet of slaughter, By the light of blazing halls! Strong be your swords while your blood is warm. And spare neither for pity nor fear, For vengeance hath but an hour; Strong hate itself shall expire! I also must perish.
Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:44 am
Duh102
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Re: The Lounge
Foa wrote:
Duh102 wrote:
Any time someone claims "Yeah the old ways were better, modern X has changed for the worse because they forgot things",
Well, this modern archery crap is for target shooting. He doesn't unduly disparage it, as he says during a live interview, it's just less active, probably less viable for combat/military, and personally less fun.
The vibe I got from the linked video was definitely disparaging of modern archery, what with all of it's references to modern archery as having been developed from movies etc. If the guy personally doesn't actually ascribe to that belief, well, that's an entirely different matter, I only have this video to go off of. If modern archery evolved to do better in target shooting, well there's your reason why it is what it is, not because we forgot all the other techniques. As far as it being less viable for military applications... well yeah, we have guns.
Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:49 am
CaveCricket48
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Re: The Lounge
But Duh, bows are totally viable in modern warfare! You can like, reuse the ammo, and it's silent!
On another note, fast shooting of a not-bow:
Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:12 am
Asklar
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Re: The Lounge
I'll give you that, revolvers are extremely sexy.
Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:59 am
Mackerel
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Re: The Lounge
I'm a semi-auto guy personally.
No burst fire please unless it's a two shot.
Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:48 am
111herbert111
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Re: The Lounge
I've been meaning to get my restricted firearms license, I ♥♥♥♥ love revolvers.
Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:15 pm
Lucem
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Re: The Lounge
I'd love to own a revolver myself, but ammunition's pretty expensive if you're not planning on reloading cartridges. I think 357 magnum prices here are close to 50 cents per shot.
Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:55 pm
Asklar
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You can't do this withour revolvers Mack
Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:49 am
Mackerel
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