[Homestuck thread] ACT 6 ACT 5
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Metal Chao
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Re: [Homestuck thread] Jake English is Lord English
So Jake's dreamself is dead, but that's not the first time we've seen this happen. Aradia's dreamself was dead before the session too, so presumably that coffin is being taken to his secret quest bed, and if the moon explodes he'll be revived in the same way. Makes me wonder if the same sort of thing happened for Aradia (the funeral). Would it be solemn and sad or would the Dersites have celebrated?
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:03 am |
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Miggles
Data Realms Elite
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Re: [Homestuck thread] Jake English is Lord English
Hm.
Who knows? Dersites are pretty damn vicious, but I don't know if they'd be happy or not. I'd assume that either way, Derse dreamers are still important to Derse in some way, just like Prospits' dreamers are to Prospitians.
So how did Aradia die on Derse, was it ever said why? Or was it just because her live self was dead?
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:07 am |
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Sothe
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:34 am Posts: 2034
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
I thought if your live self was dead you could still be in derse
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:11 am |
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Metal Chao
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
I think it's because she died before the game started? I don't know, her dreamself wasn't in its room and was lying on that hidden bed when the moon exploded and she mentioned never sleeping so I can't think how else she would have got there. I'm pretty sure there was also a panel when Sollux died that was a list of trolls and dreamselves which gave Sollux two and Aradia none.
I would assume that dreamselves die if you die before you are in the medium but after you enter the game you get your second emergency life.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:15 am |
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TheLastBanana
DRL Developer
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
I don't think her dreamself ever died, it's just that it wasn't "active" since her real self was dead before the game started (and thus she couldn't dream). If the dreamself was actually dead, she wouldn't have been able to return as god tier, would she? Maybe I'm getting this wrong, I don't know.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:44 am |
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Miggles
Data Realms Elite
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Re: [Homestuck thread] Lord English Muffins is Betty Crocker
So, on Doc Scratch's and subsequently Lord English's creation.
Gamzee was apparently the original owner of Lil' Cal. That much is apparent. Dave (or technically Bro) acquired him through some sort of shenanigan bull♥♥♥♥. Because it was Gamzee's doll, would it be far-fetched to say that Gamzee's crazy DNA rubbed off on it when it was prototyped with the cue ball? That could explain LE's honking.
Would it also be far-fetched to say that this is the correct explanation and not the previous one (that was dumb) that involved LE influencing the trolls? I'm sure through some idiotic way there could be many more explanations for the other influenced things in the comic.
EDIT: TLB: Her dreamself wasn't dead. When she Got Tiger, you can see that she obviously opens her eyes as she is dying, meaning she was alive and sleeping.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:48 am |
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Metal Chao
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
According to MSPAWiki:
Cal can be considered a Paradox clone of sorts, but he was not made through Ectobiology. Rather, as Dave was raised by Bro and Cal, he grew fearful of him due to his creepy aesthetic. GAMZEE MAKARA then burned this fear into his subconscious using his "chucklevoodoos". This caused a manifestation of these fears to make a 'Dream Cal' which continued to antagonize Dave in his dreams. Rose became annoyed by him and threw him to DERSE, but he landed on Bro's hoverboard and was brought to the Ectobiology lab in THE VEIL by a Transportalizer. This Dream Cal was sent back in time with Baby Bro to grow up with him, become the 'real' Cal, and raise Dave, leading to his paradoxical origins as he causes subconscious trauma that creates him in the first place. Cal is later stitched back together by Bro at an unknown time and appears with him when he faces JACK NOIR in the LAND OF WIND AND SHADE. After Bro is defeated by the BECQUEREL-prototyped Noir, he is taken by Noir for unknown reasons (along with Bro's awesome shades). When he throws away all of his trophies JACK NOIR keeps Cal. The reason being that he could Jack stores Cal in some sort of First Guardian dimensional pocket within his own body. When Jack battles the Aradia army upon entering the Trolls' session, he sends Cal to entangle one of the attacking robots. That particular Aradia then travels through time, taking Cal with her, and when they arrive they are promptly hit by a meteor and into one of Skaia's defensive portals. Cal lands on Alternia, near Aradia's hive before the creation of Sgrub, and the impact reveals a Frog Temple. She then gives him to SOLLUX, who in turn gives him to KANAYA. She makes him a new FELT-like outfit, but decides to put him away in her respiteblock when she too becomes unnerved by him. BLACK QUEEN then targeted him with a Appearifier along with the MAGIC CUE BALL to create DOC SCRATCH. During the conversation between a sober GAMZEE and past DAVE, it's implied that along with the Harlequin doll placed in John's room, Gamzee used his "Chucklevoodoos" to create the Cal in Dave's dreams (rather than just spawning due to mental trauma), thus, creating the real Cal that goes through all of the aformentioned events that lead him to Gamzee.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:52 am |
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TheLastBanana
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
Take a look at the "T1CK T0CK BR8K H34DS honk HONK" section here. Lord English influenced Gamzee into honking, and not the other way around. Also, looking at this while I'm typing it makes me realize how silly it sounds.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:07 am |
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Miggles
Data Realms Elite
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
NO, MY EXPLANATION IS THE RIGHT ONE.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:16 am |
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TorrentHKU
Loose Canon
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
nope.avi All in all, it DOES make sense for an temporal scratch-demon to start the honking rather than some silly juggalo. And for anyone who tries to say that the honking and clown-ness came from the Human session then traveled back to the Troll session via paradox space-time, go slap yourself in the face right now.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:57 am |
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Mackerel
Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 1:30 am Posts: 2876 Location: Rent free in your head. Vacation in your ass.
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
>My face when Crab Dad I honestly don't know if I can read this anymore. There's so much foreshadowing ♥♥♥♥ in here I'm basically ♥♥♥♥ every panel now.
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Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:54 pm |
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Jomn
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 327 Location: US of A
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
Noooo Tinkerbull. ;_;
Oh well.
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Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:56 pm |
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Miggles
Data Realms Elite
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
...... What Random explosions End of act So dissapointing
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:50 am |
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TheKebbit
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:24 pm Posts: 3939 Location: NORTH
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
Best EOA flash evar
I think she dun got herself assasinated.
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:25 am |
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Metal Chao
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 6:04 pm Posts: 2901
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Re: [Homestuck thread] The Page was you
mail bombs?
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:36 am |
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