So guys, I just thought I would jump on the contest bandwagon.

So we all have mods and contributions and modders and contributors of good, mediocre, and bad quality.

But I think the question of who is the most innovative, creative modder is between two people: Grif and numgun.

Simply put, whose products do you prefer the most?

Vote with the poll, but feel free to post a rationale if you want.

GRIF GRIF GRIF

I'd choose Grif any day over Dumbgun.

Voting for Grif, because his ideas are unique, gameplay changing, and generally his own ideas.

Not picking either because both are good modders, good people, etc.

Also, the older the member the more important/weighted their opinion is. Just thought I'd put that out there. And nail it down.

Lacks an 'equal' option for indecisive voters? O=

Anyways... numgun has two pretty great factions running at the moment that are both fun to play, the Ballistic Weapon Mercs and the AAL. Overall numgun made a lot of contributions to modders (eg the first successful giant robot).

In recent times, Grif has been making a lot of innovative stuff with Lua, like his plane, for example, and the recently released mini-map. I think Grif definitely got the jump on the all the possibilities of Lua, and so as of recent times, I'd have to vote Grif.

Also because he has a meathammer.

I vote for Grif because every mod he has made in the past year or so has been GROUNDBREAKING.

What do we get when we guzzle down numgun's sweets? SHITTY OVERPOWERED HALLOWEEN-COLORED SUPER SOLDIER ♥♥♥♥ THAT IS SO REHASHED ITS RETARDED. Also, SUCKY VANILLA CONTENT. He simply resprited the coalition to make the Ronin. Do you want a LAZY DEVELOPER?

Don't gamble on a sure thing; Grif for CC Dev '09

"Because he's waaaaaay better than the alternative"

This poll is a perfect example of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dichotomy

You can keep your wikipedias

I really enjoy numgun's "overpowered halloween-coloured super soldiers". And can't wait for the ypsilon to rape my screen with no lube.

Mail that is fairly irrelevant. Its just a fun topic no one is being rude or anything. So what if there is no "in between" choice? Real men trust their gut to give them a black and white answer!

How so? The poll asks who you prefer more. If you're going to be a fence-sitter, you don't have to vote.

That's what the poll says, but not the post:

I voted for Grif because of his huge wang that tastes like salt water taffy

Whose innovates more in your opinion?

I think you're over-thinking this.

What is this I don't even

uh---thanks, guys?