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Author:  Mehman [ Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.40
Hi everyone,

These weapons are modified versions of vanilla ones, with some improvements:

The HE SMG:
A standard SMG loaded with HE bullets an reinforced to be able to sustain more damage without breaking.
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The HE Pistol:
A regular pistol loaded with HE bullets, reinforced, with a better grip than the tradestar pistol.
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The Impact Heavy Pistol:
A coalition heavy pistol loaded with impacter rounds, reinforced and improved grip.
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The Impact Shotgun:
A shotgun loaded with Impacter ammunition, very dangerous. Improved grip and reinforced.
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The APFSDS Sniper Rifle:
A heavy sniper rifle loaded with APFSDS (Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot) rounds, improved scope, high quality grip and reinforced.
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The AP Assault Rifle (AP-AR):
A coalition Rifle modified to fire AP bullets that can penetrate cover and armor easily, improved grip and reinforced. The fire rate has been reduced to compensate for the high recoil generated by AP bullets.
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The HE Gatling:
A gatling gun modified by our engineering team to shoot HE rounds with increased rate of fire, improved grip and reinforced, really the ultimate weapon. An improved spinning mechanism is also included that reduces the spinning up time.(so that the AI can use it)
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Here you can see it on an A-4 gunship(amrobotics):
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The regenerating coalition heavy:
Not really a weapon, but a soldier equipped with a bio regenerator that heals him over time, he also comes equipped with a pistol.

All these weapons have realistic bullet trajectories.
This mod works perfectly on B24, it sould also work on B23.

Download:
Attachment:
File comment: V1.40:
_Smoke reduced on the sniper
_HE Impact sound weakened
_Regenerating Coalition heavy added
Vanilla RemakeV1.40.7z [132.96 KiB]
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Don't hesitate to comment and make suggestions for other weapons or improvements for these ones.

Old:
Attachment:
File comment: V1.30:
_HE Gatling added
_Impacter Heavy Pistol added
_Explosion sound added
Vanilla RemakeV1.30.7z [157.89 KiB]
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Attachment:
File comment: V1.20:
_AP-AR added
Vanilla RemakeV1.20.7z [5.49 KiB]
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File comment: V1.10:
APFSDS Sniper Rifle added
Vanilla RemakeV1.10.7z [5 KiB]
Downloaded 390 times

Attachment:
File comment: V1.01:
_Better effects
Vanilla RemakeV1.01.7z [4.07 KiB]
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File comment: V1.0
Vanilla Remake.rte.7z [3.98 KiB]
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Author:  Poor mans sniper [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
Wow, I just tried these out and they are awesome! May I request you do the Assault rifle?
Author:  Mehman [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
Poor mans sniper wrote:
Wow, I just tried these out and they are awesome! May I request you do the Assault rifle?

Thanks, do you mean the coalition AR or the AK-47? And what kind of bullets should it get?
Author:  Kettenkrad [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
Cool, it would be, if you were to make a gun with APFSDS / APDS rounds. Also, it's always amazed me hoe you make pixels explode. Does the gun fire an invisible MOSRotating aswell, or is it just a .lua script?
Author:  Mehman [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
Kettenkrad wrote:
Cool, it would be, if you were to make a gun with APFSDS / APDS rounds. Also, it's always amazed me hoe you make pixels explode. Does the gun fire an invisible MOSRotating aswell, or is it just a .lua script?


It is just a lua script I use to "gib" MOPixels, also the APDS idea sounds good to me, i'll try to modify the coalition Heavy Sniper Rifle to use that.
Author:  Lizardheim [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
It'd be nice if you spent a bit more time making the effects pretty and not just spam the same particle over and over again.
Author:  Mehman [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
Lizard wrote:
It'd be nice if you spent a bit more time making the effects pretty and not just spam the same particle over and over again.

Ok I'll try to make it look better.

Edit:Done, check V1.01.

Edit-2:
Kettenkrad wrote:
Cool, it would be, if you were to make a gun with APFSDS / APDS rounds.


I just added an APFSDS heavy rifle in V1.10.
Author:  Poor mans sniper [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons
Mehman wrote:
Poor mans sniper wrote:
Wow, I just tried these out and they are awesome! May I request you do the Assault rifle?

Thanks, do you mean the coalition AR or the AK-47? And what kind of bullets should it get?

I mean the Coalition AR and maybe it should fire FMJs? I've shot straight through a Manhole cover with a FMJ 7.62 bullet with my Mosin nagant, so you know how powerful they should be.
Author:  411570N3 [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.10
Realism does not necessarily make for good gameplay.
Author:  Mehman [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.10
411570N3 wrote:
Realism does not necessarily make for good gameplay.

Yes I know, I'll try to make it so that it can pierce armor and light cover without raping too much terrain. I may also reduce the fire rate and/or ammo capacity to prevent that.

Edit:
Updated to V1.20: AP-AR added: It can easily pierce light cover and armor at medium/long range and even thin concrete walls at short range with multiple shots, don't expect much of that at long range however.

Edit-2:
Updated to V1.30:
:ccevil: Get your High Explosive Gatling today! :ccevil:
_Impacter heavy pistol added
_Explosion sound added
Author:  Lizardheim [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.30
The explosion sound is pretty annoying, the large cloud of fire coming out of the guns doesn't look that good either.
Guns rape terrain like hell.

I'd hardly call them improved vanilla weapons, considering they are basicly just slightly more sophisticated bullet hoses.
Plus, with the two frame shotgun muzzle flash and the horrendous firerate the gatling gun looks like it got a lamp stuck in the barrels.

Edit: oh and FYI, B24 doesn't have acid casings, B23 did.
Author:  Mehman [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.30
Lizard wrote:
The explosion sound is pretty annoying

That may be true, should I reduce it or simply delete it?

Lizard wrote:
the large cloud of fire coming out of the guns doesn't look that good either.

It is only there on guns that shoot extremely powerful bullets, so I think it is justified, and that it looks good, what do others think about it?
Lizard wrote:
Guns rape terrain like hell.


The HE bullets don't rape terrain at all(the minigun rapes a bit but it is meant to be overpowered), the AP and APFSDS bullets, well they are designed to penetrate cover, but they don't "rape terrain like hell"

Lizard wrote:
I'd hardly call them improved vanilla weapons, considering they are basicly just slightly more sophisticated bullet hoses.

You may not like them, however you exxagerate here.

Lizard wrote:
Plus, with the two frame shotgun muzzle flash

Well if you have suggestion for a better one I'll be happy to take it.

Lizard wrote:
and the horrendous firerate the gatling gun

Isn't the whole point of a gatling gun to have a horrendous firerate?

Lizard wrote:
Edit: oh and FYI, B24 doesn't have acid casings, B23 did.

I didn't know that, thanks for telling me.
Author:  Lizardheim [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.30
Armor piercing =/= Bunker busting.

Actually, the HE SMG kills terrain pretty fast.
Oh and the size of the explosions, should be about half the size or summat, would look better.

And no, the point of a gatling gun is extended firing without overheating.
There's just a certain firing speed you can get when the barrel has to line up when you shoot aswell as to have it spin.

Heavy sniper kills you outright if you fire it downwards. Might be realistic, but it's not fun. Just make the effects and everything go to the sides when faced with terrain intead of rebounding into your skull.

And I'm not exaggerating, you don't polish your mods well enough before release imo, it's not that much more work to make them a lot better.


But yeah, it's not a mod without potential, that's for sure.

Edit: oh and drop all the different colors, it's just detracting from the OP.
Author:  Mehman [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.30
Lizard wrote:
Armor piercing =/= Bunker busting.

Actually, the HE SMG kills terrain pretty fast.
Oh and the size of the explosions, should be about half the size or summat, would look better.

And no, the point of a gatling gun is extended firing without overheating.
There's just a certain firing speed you can get when the barrel has to line up when you shoot aswell as to have it spin.

Heavy sniper kills you outright if you fire it downwards. Might be realistic, but it's not fun. Just make the effects and everything go to the sides when faced with terrain intead of rebounding into your skull.

And I'm not exaggerating, you don't polish your mods well enough before release imo, it's not that much more work to make them a lot better.


But yeah, it's not a mod without potential, that's for sure.

Edit: oh and drop all the different colors, it's just detracting from the OP.



This discussion is pointless, every single time I make a mod and say everything is bad, I don't say my mods are perfect, nothing is, but you clearly exxagerate, I don't kow what problem you got with me, but it is really annoying, you don't make constructive criticism, you simply say everything is bad.

Just so you know destroying two pixels of terrain isn't terrain rape, 6500 rpm is a perfectly realistic firerate for a minigun from the future(actually even for a contemporary one)

Lizard wrote:
Heavy sniper kills you outright if you fire it downwards. Might be realistic, but it's not fun. Just make the effects and everything go to the sides when faced with terrain intead of rebounding into your skull.

And this may be the only constructive thing you've posted in this whole topic, I'll see what I can do.
Author:  411570N3 [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved Vanilla Weapons V1.30
Mehman wrote:
This discussion is pointless, every single time I make a mod and say everything is bad, I don't say my mods are perfect, nothing is, but you clearly exxagerate, I don't kow what problem you got with me, but it is really annoying, you don't make constructive criticism, you simply say everything is bad.
Lizard's post was entirely constructive criticism.
Mehman wrote:
6500 rpm is a perfectly realistic firerate for a minigun from the future(actually even for a contemporary one)
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