Fg as Foreground, as terrain. Background, Foreground, Christ am I the only one to use logic here? Though I wished cortex really had some kind of foreground...

if your tunnel supports are made of terrain

you can't walk through your tunnel

christ am I the only one to use logic here

Okay i think you saw the wrong thing. I said, supports on the background and supports on the terrain, but supports on the terrain should not be right in the ♥♥♥♥ middle only on the sides and the ceilings I think anyone bright enough would have got that by now. I know how cortex freaking works I actually modded for that game remember?

Jesus I REALLY AM the only one using logic here!

see it's just that I happen to assume you're retarded

and happen to be correct, as well, but that's--actually that's rather central to the point.

mine shafts (since we're now on that subject, rather than, say, DIRT TUNNELS, such as those featured in the mod) use vertical wooden supports

you don't need to hold the floor together in a mine shaft. you need to hold the roof up.

also,


obviously your mods were rather ♥♥♥♥ because evidently I don't remember

...enough said.

Besides I'm pretty sure anyone on that forum that actually downloaded one of my mods can't say it was ♥♥♥♥, maybe you should try and search before saying crap.

Edit : I'm done toying for the night, maybe I'll come back here tomorrow or just screw that damn forum and stay away like I did the last time. Have fun.

do you know how 2d games work

you are looking at them from the side

that means that supports on the side--would be in the middle

the floor is the one on the bottom. the ceiling is the one on the top.

the sides are in the middle. where your actor goes

edit:


oh please god do

Come on Grif, be nice to the poor kid. -Duh

ANYWAYS THIS MOD IS PRETTY SWELL, EH?

Edit: Are we supposed to report this? Does grif have free reign? Is it even bad?

You can pretty well say that again so...

yeah
same reason rockets land on the tiny blue mountains, at the top of the scene
no attempt at visual depth in this game, no sir

It's obvious what he meant, supports that either overlap everything else and don't collide with stuff, or are behind everything else and are overlapped by anything else. He did word it very poorly though.


Anyways I suggest you only put side supports on the bg, and forget the supports that would be on the side closer to the player, since only glows can overlap everything else, and they couldn't really be made to look like wooden supports.

Yeah well he totally told db off so he's on a streak man. I wouldn't touch him or else you could be next.

Oh yeah and i gurantee half the people reading this thought i was serious

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html

Actually:It seems to me that he thinks there should be some more supports like so:

Where the FG supports are on the physical floor and ceiling.
Also, (if it works) you could make an object that had some hitable Pinned MOSR points (for more MO rape) that glow with a 255,0,255 glow that hides all the stuff behind it, a black glow that cancels everything on that point, and a normal, additive glow of the plank sprite. Obviously, that would be drawn out and pointless for drawing some FG supports, but it could work (ceebs testing it).
REGARDLESS deathbringer should have explained himself better (heck, I don't know if I'm right about what he means, but whatever).
If i should do more research on glows and how they affect one another, tell me, I haven't dabbled much.

-> The topic: awesome, this will make a scene I'm about to work on for a bit way easier to manage. Very nice work. Spoilers: easy cool backgrounds can be foundmade by taking some bits of proms awesome stuff, copying it over the normal 128x128 texture with feathered edges, and then apply some more moss and whatnot manually. If you want to go all out on the supports though, go for it. You'll end up making less BGs that way if you do, cause repeating the hand painted stuff brings out tiling WAAY too much.

I think supports should be avoided. Go with the tunneled rock background that Prom did like Geti suggested. Poorly sprited supports will definitely detract from the modules, so if you can find a good spriter to do it by all means, but I'd go with the cave tunnel route.

I have some from zombies09 if you want.
Property of roon3, credit where used etc.
http://drop.io/w4eaww1
Balls in your court.

Damnit people!
I just finish a post and then you guys are all like 'yeah we'd like to help you with this' and I have to start typing a response all over again!

Those struts look pretty great Geti, just testing them out now.

Thanks for various complements, also.

Edit:

I like them a lot so far, but is there any way to randomize the bunkermodule that is placed?
So we could have different backgrounds and such.
Something like that would certainly help to break up any repetitiveness.

Edit2:

Experimenting with wood along the top.
At the moment they are foreground, but they might be better just as a background.

Thoughts?

Duuude. Realistic tunnels. I'd say the wood represents the ceiling, and thus it should be in the FG layer. Now just to make cave-in traps using some Lua...