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 [WIP] DSTech Corp (UPDATED: 5/22/09) 
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Suffice to say, I look forward to ramming your doors soon, DSMK2 :grin:


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Duh102 wrote:
Suffice to say, I look forward to ramming your doors soon, DSMK2 :grin:


Heh heh... Probably should up my module's structural integrity to get a long with it...

Alright, robot redesign ideas!
My initial thoughts:
Have built in chaff launchers on all units <shoulder mounted: 100% chance on stopping rockets, random chance of
stopping basic projectiles>
Have built in repair functions <Slow> <Need a special module to replace lost parts though>
Make it so units cannot be mind controlled <except for brain units> or stunned(?)
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Or have a feature that reasserts authority over any mind controlled DSTech units in a radius, brain units only


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Hmm...
I guess you could do that by having every one of your units record its original team in a separate variable, and then set that as the team when it gets near the brain or at a set interval.
But then you could just as easily modify the mind control device to change that variable as well.
And then you wouldn't be able to use disguise kits with DSTech robots if you set it to occur at a set interval.
Also, as far as I know, there are multiple ways to make a unit ineffective, and the only faction that really uses it so far uses many of them. Even if you disable one of the mechanisms, one of the others would still make them almost exactly as incapacitated; effectively disabling the second mechanism would make it either impossible to change aim with or make it unable to change aim when not controlled, I'm not sure.


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Hmm...
I guess you could do that by having every one of your units record its original team in a separate variable, and then set that as the team when it gets near the brain or at a set interval.
But then you could just as easily modify the mind control device to change that variable as well.
And then you wouldn't be able to use disguise kits with DSTech robots if you set it to occur at a set interval.
Also, as far as I know, there are multiple ways to make a unit ineffective, and the only faction that really uses it so far uses many of them. Even if you disable one of the mechanisms, one of the others would still make them almost exactly as incapacitated; effectively disabling the second mechanism would make it either impossible to change aim with or make it unable to change aim when not controlled, I'm not sure.


Pretty much what I was thinking, though I'm going to have to have the bots save their original team on spawn, so brain units can pretty much reclaim robots that used to be on the same team, nothing more than that. For those other variables, I'm going to give the attacking side a false sense of hope. So the robot will appear incapacitated, for a bit, before it unleashes hot lead into the attacker.

Its not like other modders will notice the variables in the script, unless they really really want to murder my faction ha ha.

Though I'm wanting to make some or see some EMP guns, the best way for non-robots to really mess up robots.

Ah right, anyone know anyway to get all MOSRotatings in the MoveableManager? I can't find the variable aside from "Actors".


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Wait, will the EMP fry them ( neutralize them and incapacitate ) , or will it just incapacitate them until they fully reboot ( or get repaired ) ?


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Wait, will the EMP fry them ( neutralize them and incapacitate ) , or will it just incapacitate them until they fully reboot ( or get repaired ) ?


Bumping with interest as my upcoming faction plans to use EMP nades and EMP missiles. I'd go for temporary incapacitation myself...


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Hmm...
Ah right, anyone know anyway to get all MOSRotatings in the MoveableManager? I can't find the variable aside from "Actors".


Code:
for Particle in MovableMan.Particles do
   if (Particle.ClassName == "MOSRotating") then
   end
end


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Foa wrote:
Wait, will the EMP fry them ( neutralize them and incapacitate ) , or will it just incapacitate them until they fully reboot ( or get repaired ) ?


Bumping with interest as my upcoming faction plans to use EMP nades and EMP missiles. I'd go for temporary incapacitation myself...



Incapacitation <I'll code for my robots to recover after a bit> and scaling damage!

And thanks Sunrise!


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Post Re: [WIP] DSTech Corp (UPDATED: 5/22/09)
Something popped into mind while playing CC earlier, and having to deal with an entrance being clogged with debris and drop ship remains.

It would be nice if there was a variant of the DSTech digger that was fast for digging through softer terrain and debris, but which did not eat through rock, concrete, metal, actors, etc, with frightening speed.
Basically something like a faster, wider area pulse digger or some such thing.

Perhaps something that could be a portable version of the DSTech bunker pieces that 'dig' through debris/dirt, perhaps even something (or another DSTech digger variant) that does not harm actors, doors, etc), so one could clear debris from their front door without accidentally destroying the actual door.
Maybe even an explosive that 'digs', clearing out dirt/debris easily, but with minimal effect on concrete/rock, and no effect on metal, and perhaps minimal damage to actors and such.

quick edit:
the later ideas would also be handy for salvaging weapons, tools, etc, from debris, so gear could be sold of for extra money. With most diggers, they would destroy the stuff if not careful, which makes battlefield salvage tricky at best. It would also be handy for digging out friendlies that got 'buried' and are stuck in a pocket under some debris.


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rditto48801 wrote:
Something popped into mind while playing CC earlier, and having to deal with an entrance being clogged with debris and drop ship remains.

It would be nice if there was a variant of the DSTech digger that was fast for digging through softer terrain and debris, but which did not eat through rock, concrete, metal, actors, etc, with frightening speed.
Basically something like a faster, wider area pulse digger or some such thing.

Perhaps something that could be a portable version of the DSTech bunker pieces that 'dig' through debris/dirt, perhaps even something (or another DSTech digger variant) that does not harm actors, doors, etc), so one could clear debris from their front door without accidentally destroying the actual door.
Maybe even an explosive that 'digs', clearing out dirt/debris easily, but with minimal effect on concrete/rock, and no effect on metal, and perhaps minimal damage to actors and such.

I think I made those cleaner base accessories for that reason...


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wow, my quick edit wasn't quick enough.
(darn that was a fast reply)

Sure, the base cleaners are handy, but I meant portable stuff, for use outside of the base, for salvage, recovery and general removal of debris that might hinder defensive efforts or give the enemy cover from longer range weapons due to obstructing the line of sight of units and turrets.


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DSMK2 wrote:
carriontrooper wrote:
Foa wrote:
Wait, will the EMP fry them ( neutralize them and incapacitate ) , or will it just incapacitate them until they fully reboot ( or get repaired ) ?


Bumping with interest as my upcoming faction plans to use EMP nades and EMP missiles. I'd go for temporary incapacitation myself...



Incapacitation <I'll code for my robots to recover after a bit> and scaling damage!

And thanks Sunrise!

Erm, Zombies 09 has the incapacitation, and DarkStorm has the grenade and emp field effect, I'll just leave you three alone, and this thing over here, it is not a camera, and if it were, it is definitely not on, nor does it have batteries or recording space or a memory card.


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Post Re: [WIP] DSTech Corp (UPDATED: 5/22/09)
If I do the stuff with the activities.ini, I get an error message, even though I commented and uncommented as instructed:

"Abortion in file .\System\Reader.cpp, line 531, because:

Referring to an instance ('DSO3 Blade Digger') to copy from that hasn't been
defined! in DSTech.rte/Activities.ini at line 75"

Does anyone know what that means?


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Yes, it means that it is looking for a particular PresetName that does not exist. My guess is DSMK2 did not update his Activities last time he changed around the PresetNames of his mod.


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He explicitly wrote not working above it, though if anyone wanted a new activities cooking up I'm sure I could, that is if DSMK2 is ok with it and dosen't want to do it himself.


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