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WickedIcon
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 11
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A comparison that should provide some perspective.
Data has several other people helping him create content. He releases a build, and then a year and a half later releases another build that adds absolutely ♥♥♥♥ all other than a couple menus and a couple minor physics tweaks, and in fact actually removes some rather neat content that the previous build had. He is also almost absurdly distant from the community he created other than popping up every now and then to dickwave at us resolve this shitstorm about B24.
Toady One, of Dwarf Fortress fame, has exactly one person helping him who does virtually nothing as far as actual development. He releases a build, and then a year and a half later releases another build that adds a metric crapton of content, followed by another update shortly after that adds *another* metric crapton of content. Toady is also very active in the DF community and very frequently updates the fans on what the hell is going on in development.
Toady's game is also free and supported by donations, as opposed to Data's game which costs money. Both are the sole sources of income for their developers.
There is no excuse for this bull♥♥♥♥. I love Cortex Command, and in fact I've been playing it since B17, so it pains me to see this kind of thing happen to such an awesome game.
Last edited by WickedIcon on Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:58 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Coops
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:07 am Posts: 1545 Location: That small peaceful place called Hell.
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
If this is how Data is choosing to do it then this is the way hes gonna do it and I guess there isnt much we can do about it and if we try to take the aggresive way of intending of gaining his word then it seems to make things much worse.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:55 am |
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WickedIcon
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 11
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
Doesn't mean I can't complain about it.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:56 am |
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Coops
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:07 am Posts: 1545 Location: That small peaceful place called Hell.
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
If theres no point on complaining and cant accomplish anything with it then you shouldnt have the right to.
Last edited by Coops on Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:58 am |
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WickedIcon
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:14 am Posts: 11
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
Okay, number one, that statement was tongue-in-cheek, which should have been fairly obvious. Number two, that is an amazingly stupid thing to say.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:59 am |
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Coops
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:07 am Posts: 1545 Location: That small peaceful place called Hell.
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
IF YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT THEN WHY COMPLAIN?
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:00 am |
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Natti
Data Realms Elite
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:05 am Posts: 3878
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
But you're not gaining anything by complaining so why are you complaining? Also, you're late. That's an old thing already, comparing Data to other indie developers. And this WickedIcon wrote: Both are the sole sources of income for their developers. is simply wrong. About both of the developers.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:01 am |
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Contrary
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:50 pm Posts: 2175 Location: Neverwhere
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
Natti wrote: is simply wrong. About both of the developers. That's pretty damn useless. Don't just say "NO UR RONG" without elaborating or giving sources. I think that CC is Data's primary source of income, if not his only.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:41 pm |
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Footkerchief
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:43 pm Posts: 92
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
If Toady has a source of income other than donations, it's a well kept secret. Natti wrote: But you're not gaining anything by complaining so why are you complaining?
It pisses Data off, which is currently the only known way of motivating him.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:15 pm |
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Lizardheim
DRL Developer
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 am Posts: 4107 Location: Russia
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
You honestly think pissing Data off is going to make him work more? If anything, it probably makes him work less.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:17 pm |
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Footkerchief
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:43 pm Posts: 92
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
Lizard wrote: If anything, it probably makes him work less. That would imply he's doing any work to begin with. As it stands, though, there's nothing to lose.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:37 pm |
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Natti
Data Realms Elite
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:05 am Posts: 3878
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
Footkerchief, even little progress is progress.
EDIT
Also, do you think that a fanbase that complains and whines all the time does motivate him to keep on developing the game? You're acting like a little spoiled child.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:45 pm |
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Duh102
happy carebear mom
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 am Posts: 7096 Location: b8bbd5
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Re: A comparison that should provide some perspective.
I don't see anything here that hasn't been said already. We get it, you expected more development in however long it's been since last build, Data is lazy, [indie dev here] does a lot more for his community in less time, etc. I hate to put my foot down but locked until/unless someone can give me a good reason why this should stay open.
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