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| Author: | tomks322 [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Rocket and Dropship Docks |
I have built countless hangers and when i fly my dropship in, click stay, and fly up into the dock it never stops moving. then i go fight and when i need to drop more troops i find the dropship blew up and killed everyone... Any ideas? -Thank You
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| Author: | FuzzyMelon [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Just use the rocket docking module. Dropships are extremely shock-sensitive, so much so that touching a wall or anything static will cause the engines to fail. They're also air-cooled so if it isn't moving enough the engines will catastrophically overheat and the whole thing blows up without warning. Rockets were never designed with that fault since they can "land", and are just better to use with the docking things. |
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| Author: | TorrentHKU [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
The docks have never really worked all that well for me either, I don't think they're quick finished. But there's a zombie defense mod that has a rocket dock that works well, if I recall correctly. FuzzyMelon wrote: JThey're also air-cooled so if it isn't moving enough the engines will catastrophically overheat and the whole thing blows up without warning. Those are just called "bullets". |
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| Author: | FuzzyMelon [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Your dropships don't explode on you when they sit still too long? I've always experienced that problem. |
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| Author: | TorrentHKU [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
If your dropships were damaged, even one bullet hole, then they could've bled out and died. |
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| Author: | PhantomAGN [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
The docks work by making it so that the dropships never cease to move, thereby resetting the automatic self-destruct timer on all crafts. If you build a really stable dropship and make it just float, it will blow up midair, regardless of human control. The docks are a stupid fix for a stupid problem. But the rockets are better, and the crates docks are a good way to hold guys. Combined with a gravity gun it works pretty well. |
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| Author: | TheLastBanana [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Unfortunately, until dropships can stop moving without exploding, there won't be a proper dropship dock. |
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| Author: | Lizardheim [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Rotate it and move it around veeery gently? |
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| Author: | carriontrooper [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Lizard wrote: Rotate it and move it around veeery gently? AKA Rock-a-bye dropship? Could be cool. Rotate it by one degree in the time span of ten seconds, then one degree in the other direction in ten seconds, ensovoort. |
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| Author: | Lizardheim [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Yeah something like that. Or just make Dan make the hardcoded scuttle toggleable. |
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| Author: | TheLastBanana [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
The latter will happen eventually. Trust me when I say that a lot of testing went into the dropship docks - this was the most stable and safe form of docking I could get. Any less subtle movements lead to explosions. Feel free to try and find a technique that works better, though - if you can, maybe I can improve the script (with your permission, of course). |
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| Author: | Lizardheim [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Moving the dropship in a notable "wave" motion would probably work AND look cool at the same time. |
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| Author: | FuzzyMelon [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
What if the dropship gibs into a large metal thing that isn't an ACDropship, so when it's docked ya have its contents memorized and then undock it it''ll essentially be the same dropship. It could just be an ACRocket that looks the same just with no functionality. Solves that in the most complicated way possible. I dunno. |
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| Author: | PhantomAGN [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
Oh, if a rocket does not autoscuttle then maybe we just need to implement the engines and hovering with Lua and redo the entire dropship class. Huh. I have to go fix my battleship now. |
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| Author: | TheLastBanana [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rocket and Dropship Docks |
The wave function isn't going to happen, because it's going to be terribly inaccurate. It's not going to look nearly as cool as you think it is, and the dropship will be just as unstable as it is now. Imagine the current version, except the point that the dropship is anchoring to moves constantly in a wave. Yeah. Changing the dropship is also out of the question - not only is that hacky, but it'll remove any wounds and other damage. For a mod, maybe, but for vanilla content, that's too hacked together. Data will implement something to stop auto-scuttle at some point, because it's an obvious issue. We'll just have to hold tight until then. |
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