superking208 wrote:
make a much more in-depth version of that guide.
Try this on, see if you like it.
Attachment:
You'll have to copy-paste the links into your browser, I don't feel like making them html files right now.
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| Author: | superking208 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why (was) the wiki so useless? (Thanks everyone!) |
There are so many veteran users on these forums, and while I know they may be busy, I think between all the modding experts around here there would be some useful information on modding CC somewhere. Lord Tim's tutorial is the most useful resource around, but it's hopelessly outdated, and doesn't seem to work with b23. The Modding category on the wiki is just so insubstantial that I can't find anything there. I have heeded the advice to try modifying existing mods, but I'm not trying to make anything fancy. I don't see why a straightforward, up-to-date basic modding tutorial is too much to ask from this community, and I'm sorry if this comes across as flaming, but it's frustrating to have such high-quality work from the community and not be able to give back by creating my own. |
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| Author: | Duh102 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
Fine. What would you like put up? I cba to figure it out, so just tell me and I'll write something up. |
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| Author: | Roy-G-Biv [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
It's useless because you aren't using it right. |
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| Author: | superking208 [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
Duh102 wrote: Fine. What would you like put up? I cba to figure it out, so just tell me and I'll write something up. Well, thank you for the prompt response. Lord Tim's modding guide seems to be a good resource, but it's seriously outdated. If that were updated for b23 and more thorough, I think many newbies less audacious than I would appreciate it. Roy-G-Biv wrote: It's useless because you aren't using it right. Thank you too, for such a polite, helpful response. Oh, wait. |
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| Author: | Roy-G-Biv [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
superking208 wrote: Roy-G-Biv wrote: It's useless because you aren't using it right. Thank you too, for such a polite, helpful response. Oh, wait. Forgot to mention. Straight forward tutorials on how to mod would seem too hard to make. As every modder has some sort of different coding style. If anything, you ought to learn the variables by yourself. |
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| Author: | Mind [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
I used to know nothing at all. Nothing. I learned from looking at others' mods and editing. Now I know quite a bit. You really learn it all on your own. Ask questions on the forums, find out what you wanted to, then rinse and repeat. |
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| Author: | Duh102 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
superking208 wrote: Lord Tim's modding guide seems to be a good resource, but it's seriously outdated. What's wrong with it? Doors haven't changed since b20 when LT made that up, neither has the basic principles of ini editing. The only things wrong that I could see in a quick lookthrough is that glow colors no longer apply, and we have more basegame .rte's around. Oh, and Lua, but new modders needn't concern themselves with that until later. Ask me something specific, such as "Hey, make me a walkthrough to making a gun" or "What does [variable] do?" Like I said, I cba to figure out what you want done here. |
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| Author: | superking208 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
I am looking specifically at Part 4 (The aptly-named Super Duper New Person Guide) where he mentions PromGrounds.rte repeatedly. That's definitely not in b23. And after following his directions to the letter, (well, not to the letter, as his .bmp attachment has vanished, leaving me to substitute Pistol.bmp from Base.rte/Devices/Pistols) I still get a gun with no view model that I appear to be shooting backwards from my armpit. Now, this is veering into Support territory, so I'll just make it more specific: make a much more in-depth version of that guide. |
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| Author: | ProjektTHOR [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
You seem to have all the answers. Update it yourself! That's the joy of collaborative editing! |
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| Author: | Duh102 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
superking208 wrote: make a much more in-depth version of that guide. Try this on, see if you like it. Attachment: You'll have to copy-paste the links into your browser, I don't feel like making them html files right now. |
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| Author: | superking208 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
ProjektTHOR wrote: You seem to have all the answers. I don't! I have no idea what any of this means! That's why I need the vets like you to help! Duh102's tutorial is exactly the kind of work that the wiki needs. It's thorough without being too technical, and doesn't presume the reader to have any idea what they are talking about. A million thank yous to Duh102, by the way. EDIT: There really is an astonishing amount of information in here. Did you write these? And if so, why isn't published like Lord Tim's? |
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| Author: | Duh102 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
superking208 wrote: Did you write these? And if so, why isn't published like Lord Tim's? Yes. Written for a friend who wanted to get into modding, but then got bored of Cortex after reading tutorial 2. Never got around to posting it here. |
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| Author: | superking208 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
Well, The Two Towers was bogged down and look how successful Tolkien was! No, that was lame. But anyway, you really should publish these. In tandem with Azukki's templates, which I discovered earlier while awaiting a post to this thread, I think I could start modding. |
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| Author: | ProjektTHOR [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
I mean, I am all for someone developing the Wiki. I don't know ♥♥♥♥ about content development in this game, though. |
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| Author: | Duh102 [ Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why is the wiki so useless? |
... Alright, I'll go chuck these in the wiki. Wiki people can have at it editing. EDIT: Here, have a wiki page. I proofread it a little, but not extensively. |
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