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B27 Bug Reports
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276 
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  Re: B27 Bug ReportsReload action sometimes means the offhand spins wildly, like the hand's no longer position-bound to the offhand offset and is encountering largish rotational forces. Only happens some of the time.
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| Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:26 pm |
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Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 666 Location: Halifax, Canada
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Saving scenes in the scene or area editor re-adds their terrain frosting. So if you do it a few times you end up with multiple sets of grass and gold and such which gives you really tall grass and a ton of gold/boulders/etc.
I'm not sure if it only re-adds it once or if it doubles what's already in there (though I'm pretty sure it's the former) but that can be tested pretty easily. |
| Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:58 pm |
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 Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:32 pm Posts: 1609 Location: UK
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Re: B27 Bug Reports xenoargh wrote: Reload action sometimes means the offhand spins wildly, like the hand's no longer position-bound to the offhand offset and is encountering largish rotational forces. Only happens some of the time. I think they may be trying to reach for the HolsterOffset (a quick search for 'HolsterOffset' brings up this and Duh's reply a little further down) and trying to simulate a reloading action. Most noticeable when using an 'offhand' weapon, and definitely pre-B27. |
| Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:38 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Ah, that makes sense.
Also, another bug: If you define a HDFirearm, then a CopyOf may not be dual-wielded, even if the HDFirearm is not defined as part of the groups, "Weapons" or "Secondary Weapons". IOW, you can't do this: Code: AddDevice = HDFirearm PresetName = MyGun Base ...full firearm here, buyable 0, no AddToGroup statements AddDevice = HDFirearm CopyOf = MyGun Base PresetName = MyGun AddToGroup = Weapons Buyable = 1 AddDevice = HDFirearm CopyOf = MyGun Base PresetName = MyGun (Dual-Wield) AddToGroup = Shields Buyable = 1 [EDIT]One more bug with dual-wield: if an Actor spawns with a "shield" first in their inventory and a onehanded weapon in the second slot, they only wield one gun, not both. TBH, I really feel like dual-wield should not be this hackish workaround; buying a "shield" to get a second weapon to dual-wield is really really counterintuitive and it would be better to just have a boolean, "CanBeDualWielded", which, if 1, allows the Actor to use another dual-wield weapon. Then have three Stance Vectors for the secondary hand state, to offset them visually. I know that's a tall order, so for now in my mod I'm going to change the GUI from "Shields" to "Secondary Weapons", because well, if that's how it's always worked and a lot of mods presume it's where players should be looking... it should be in the main GUI  Last edited by xenoargh on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:35 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
| Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:10 pm |
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Data Realms Elite   Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 8:27 pm Posts: 4521 Location: Constant motion
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Re: B27 Bug Reports If you turn the base one into the shield one, then add it to weapons group in your copyof, would that work?
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| Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports That, I don't know. I'll try it out. My guess is that then the standard version shows up in Shields, at the very least, which isn't perfect but I can live with it.
Seems pretty silly to maintain whole weapon defs. when all I want is a different name / Group and small offset changes, though; I'm willing to put up with some end-user confusion to keep things cleaner |
| Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:37 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Tried it out as soon as I got home. It works, good idea there, Roast Veg!
So... define the off-hand version FIRST. Then CopyOf for the regular version, with the offsets only. Off-hand version will not show up in the regular weapon menu, but the regular version does show up in the shield menu (which I've renamed and stuff; kind of tired of menus not really matching their use case outside Vanilla). |
| Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:31 pm |
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 Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:17 pm Posts: 27 Location: Somewhere near Hoover dam in alternate future
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Huh, I don't know, is it mentioned here, but whatsoever...
While playing the campaign I'm getting strange bug - some actors(bought when i defended site or just random one) are getting unusable. I mean, I can't switch to any of them directly, their AI is turned off and they are acting like they are already selected and I am controlling them. It gives me big troubles while playing and annoying as hell. |
| Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:38 pm |
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Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:48 am Posts: 666 Location: Halifax, Canada
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Sounds like you've hit the MOID limit. If you have more than 255 MOIDs (people and guns and such) the game does weird thing. Press CTRL+P to see how many you have at any point and try to make sure it stays below 255. If you're getting this when the MOID count is below 255 then that's weird but I doubt that's gonna be the case.
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| Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:43 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:32 pm Posts: 1609 Location: UK
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Actors still make their StrideSounds if they're falling and trying to 'walk' in mid-air.
Not sure if this is a bug per se, but it's weird and messes with footstep-based stridesounds. Pretty sure it's been around for a while too. |
| Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:50 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports That's because they're still trying to walk, even though they're in midair and aren't anywhere near the ground
 [EDIT]I've found out that not only are they trying to walk, but that it's dependent on the body's angle, not the height from the ground. That's not exactly ideal, imo; we don't want AHumans trying to "duck" if you push down (which they do) or "walk" if they're in midair and their body's RotAngle <> some angle, or "go prone" if you hit down + forward. I think that the ideal solution for this would be to add new offsets that are for midair jumping, this being the position the AHuman attempts to put its limbs in while way up in the air, which would look a lot more realistic and fix a lot of issues with jetpack angles and the like while leaving manual control intact [/EDIT] |
| Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:40 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports If an Actor's HFlipped state is set via Lua during an Update() cycle, it is being overruled by the engine under some conditions, resulting in bizarre visual behavior:
Here's a script for verifying my results, in this case using an ACrab: |
| Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:16 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports Feature Request: a new gun variable, AirShakeRange. If an Actor is > X distance from the ground, this is the penalty added to any other accuracy penalties.
It'd be a good idea for competitive play, IMO, by making it less massively OP to be that guy with the sniper rifle at the top of the screen taking full advantage of delta-v, dodging via gravity and downhill ranges. Dunno why it didn't occur to me until today, but it's probably a must-have balance thing before this hits Steam. |
| Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:07 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports I.E., there's some really rudimentary thing that doesn't like it when the number of maps > 12 and crashes during updates, somewhat randomly. My guess is that it's Loadouts code crashing again; it seems to happen when bases are getting built. Happens with the official Vanilla Scenes, not just my new one, and the new one functions normally when tested in other scenarios. I can post a screenie of the bug, but without a crash-dump, it's not that useful. Going to test and see if this still happens if I move that Scene outside Base.rte, what happens when I cut a Vanilla Scene to make room for my new one, etc., but right now it's a show-stopper. If you have a Loadout like this: Code: AddLoadout = Loadout PresetName = Infantry Brain DeliveryCraft = ACDropShip PresetName = Ronin.rte/Ronin Dropship AddCargoItem = AHuman PresetName = Ronin.rte/Viper AddCargoItem = TDExplosive PresetName = Ronin.rte/Backpack MG AddCargoItem = HDFirearm PresetName = Ronin.rte/Uzi AddCargoItem = HDFirearm PresetName = Ronin.rte/Uzi (Offhand) AddCargoItem = HDFirearm PresetName = Ronin.rte/Heavy Digger If it's like this: Code: AddLoadout = Loadout PresetName = Infantry Brain DeliveryCraft = ACDropShip PresetName = Ronin.rte/Ronin Dropship AddCargoItem = AHuman PresetName = Ronin.rte/Viper AddCargoItem = TDExplosive PresetName = Ronin.rte/Backpack MG AddCargoItem = HDFirearm PresetName = Ronin.rte/Uzi AddCargoItem = HDFirearm PresetName = Ronin.rte/Uzi (Offhand) AddCargoItem = HDFirearm PresetName = Base.rte/Heavy Digger |
| Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:27 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 am Posts: 276
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Re: B27 Bug Reports More testing of this. I'm seeing crashes with the following loadout:
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| Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:14 am |
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