I'd be more impressed if it were a balanced weapon
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| Author: | Forteen [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Hey, i was messing around with the railgun mod, and I really, really, ubergraded it. And, i heard someone say that they wanted a gun that would "Instantly shoop a 24 pixel line through the map" Well, not through the map, but pretty close. Attachment: TestDump002.gif See. It accelerates the terrain so fast that it goes along with it, cutting into the ground. So,want me to try and make it into a weapon which will kill the actor and any targets instantly? Basically a suicide weapon. Or no. I have never officially modded, but I have been testing things and I think I know what everything is. |
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| Author: | 3 solid [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Hm... Well, it seems pretty powerful, and it kills the user... Some people might not agree, but I think you should. |
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| Author: | numgun [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
I smell lag. Remind of me playing around with my instagib rifle back then. Scanlines ftw. |
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| Author: | surplus2475 [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Post it somewhere so we can check it out. |
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| Author: | Levelx [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
I'd be more impressed if it were a balanced weapon
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| Author: | surplus2475 [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
You have to be more specific than that. Balanced in what way? How do you think it should be balanced? |
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| Author: | El Moppo [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
That gun. Made me. I came. |
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| Author: | Grif [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
I was the one who made that post about "shooping a 24-pixel line through the terrain". Unfortunately MOPixels are not the way to do it. I'd suggest Muzzleflash for much more dramatic results. |
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| Author: | Forteen [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Forteen wrote: will kill the actor and any targets instantly? Actually, for some reason, It terrain rapes, but just sort of goes straight through actors. it just hurts them by 25-40 hp, goes straight through, and is blocked by a regular riot shield. How do I fix this? Make it into a flak cannon shell sprite, increase bullet count, or increase mass? Btw, if you want, you can do it, heres the code. Code: //solid slug option AddAmmo = Round InstanceName = Round Rail Solid ParticleCount = 5 Particle = MOPixel InstanceName = Particle Rail Solid Mass = 0.12 RestThreshold = 0 LifeTime = 300 Sharpness = 150 HitsMOs = 1 GetsHitByMOs = 1 Color = Color R = 255 G = 255 B = 255 Atom = Atom Material = Material CopyOf = Electronics TrailColor = Color R = 200 G = 200 B = 255 TrailLength = 600 ScreenEffect = ContentFile FilePath = Base.rte/Effects/Glows/BlueBig.bmp EffectStartStrength = 1.0 EffectStartTime = 3 Shell = MOSParticle CopyOf = Railgun Battery FireVelocity = 2500000 ShellVelocity = 20000 Separation = 0 I put the top line in there to help you locate the part. |
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| Author: | Grif [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
"FireVelocity = 2500000" Well there's your problem. Above around 1000, the firevelocity makes so little difference no one even notices, and above 175-200, it'll have problems hitting actors; it just goes through them so fast that it barely has time to activate emitters, let alone do any physics based kinetic energy damage. |
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| Author: | Electroclan [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Adding to Grif's advice; lower the FireVelocity as mentioned and, instead, increase this: Code: Sharpness = 150 High sharpness will tear through just about everything. |
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| Author: | Forteen [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
if it doesnt have enough velocity, it wont terrain rape. if it just has sharpness, it will be just like the mod where you requested a 24 pixel hole. It will just be a tiny 1 pixel hole to the bottom of the map. I think I might have found out what to do though. Make it just like a flak cannon with 250000 velocity. the sprite should prevent the bullet from passing through, and bowl it over. Or make it blow up into millions of tiny pieces, whatever. Edit: Sorry, just realized I made a block of solid text. Fixed. |
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| Author: | Electroclan [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Forteen wrote: if it doesnt have enough velocity, it wont terrain rape. if it just has sharpness, it will be just like the mod where you requested a 24 pixel hole. It will just be a tiny 1 pixel hole to the bottom of the map. I think I might have found out what to do though. Make it just like a flak cannon with 250000 velocity. the sprite should prevent the bullet from passing through, and bowl it over. Or make it blow up into millions of tiny pieces, whatever. Edit: Sorry, just realized I made a block of solid text. Fixed. If you want huge gaping holes, simply go super shotgun and have it fire many particles per shot at a slight spread. Combine this with an large muzzle flash and a good sound, and you'll have a decent uberweapon. You'll never need more than 300 FireVelocity. My old Tesla Cannon uses the same principle, firing 150 invisible particles to create a large gaping hole in whatever you shoot it at. 
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| Author: | bbbzzz234 [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should I make it? An uberweapon |
Electroclan wrote: If you want huge gaping holes, simply go super shotgun and have it fire many particles per shot at a slight spread. Combine this with an large muzzle flash and a good sound, and you'll have a decent uberweapon. You'll never need more than 300 FireVelocity. My old Tesla Cannon uses the same principle, firing 150 invisible particles to create a large gaping hole in whatever you shoot it at. Can I have that telsa cannon or is it for an earlier build? If it's for an earlier build, you should definately convert. |
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