what if we were to as a community make a collection of balanced high quality guns and other wares, and submit it to the staff as a "black market" pack. they could pick out from it the good guns and make them part of the game as faction-less guns bought off the black market. the guns should have that kind of "underhanded market feel." and either be good but WAY expensive (300 like a dollar sniper+laser-pointer+good scope), or cheap and likely to explode in your face (like a 2 cent pistol that can backfire, or an modified bottle-rocket that might asplode but costs 5 cents). i think it could be really neat. Perhaps a superweapon or two (satellite mounted laser, or illegal nuke.) for the right price (3000 bucks, or whatever.) but not some rape the map to hell super weapons, more like the strength of death-bringers nukes/beam cannon. we could submit it to the staff at the end of the month, what do you guys think?

It wouldn't be very practical, but a black market seems probable with a fierce resource war raging. Maybe it could include modified versions of existing weapons?

yeah, that could be neat, and maby some mercenary's from the more balanced existing mods.
and maby "illegally modified" vanilla weapons (like a incendiary round shotguns, or something.)
here, ill mail data and see what he thinks.

A reverse engineered DSTech bot? A rogue UniTec soldier? There are many possibilities. I think this could work.

yeah, i think it might. i just emailed data, im eager to see what he thinks. in the meantime, ill make some of the stuff i thought of. ive already made a sniper with a sight: i just need to pm darlos and ask his permission for my code borrowing.
the sprite:

Biological/Nanotechnological/Chemical weapons. And all the fun stuff that those stuck up politicans don't let us used.

hadent even thought of that, but those could be awesome: *tosses green colored vial at clone, its health doubles and it ROARSs and turns on everything!!!*

This game is about fierce warfare between entrepreneurs on some frontier world bristling with gold. I sincerely doubt that there's any politicians involved

unless they own the company's. but that wouldn't stop chem weapons either way.

Quick little contribution.

that shield is funny as hell. also, my pistol is coming along nicely: hold still while you shoot, and dont move your arm to much, it works fine. duck or jetpack well shooting and you lose your hand!
but, some stuff will have to actually be high quality, like some good snipers, and a bunch of defective ones that look and sound quite similar. you never know what your getting!

Edit: Dragon Pistol:

Could it be possible to make the weapon randomly 'decent' or 'rubbish'?

maby through lua? like, you by a gun and during its first step it either changes into a crappy identical version of itself, or it stays good. but there still should be some high quality guns in the market that arnt defective, we dont want the players too see EVERYTHING as overpriced crap, some should be overpriced high tech pirated technology, to keep them trying out some of the crappy guns to see if their good. also, im making the bottle rockets and some through-able knives now.

I think this should be called blackstar.

Based on this thread i started:
http://www.datarealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16955

I don't think there are any laws or anything, or at least any that are enforced, considering we're brutally murdering dozens of meat puppets and other peple's brains for money with little regard for regulation. Double so considering we're using napalm, flechette cannons and crushing people with spaceships.

A black market won't exist where there's no market regulation.